[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
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I would recommend crossing it with a KWPN to enter rosette show jumping competitions. I have a cross like that that kept winning lower level KWPN only rosettes even after he was a few months outdated
Legacy Ann
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By Retired breeder, 17th May 2018 06:44:20
@Legacy Ann

Thank you for your help! I'm going to try that cross out today default smiley :)
Hi y'all! I just got back into crossbreeding and I got a purebred Mustang mare - anyone know a great western comps cross for her? Maybe a Marwari, I was thinking, or a Nokota, but I don't have much experience with western crosses. default smiley ^)
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I went ahead of myself and tried the Marwari idea. default smiley :d Here he is, little Lan Li. What do you think? Any advice on training?
臺雯翔
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Does anyone have a GV/Arabian I can see? GV as the main one....with good GP! I am thinking of making one
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Yes. I've got 2. One is a Gelding in my GA coat breeding farm and the other (female) is in my breed inventions tab- under non-pure tabs.
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Does anyone have-
1) Halflinger X Thoroughbred Stud
2) Walker X Welsh Stud
3) Thoroughbred X Trakehner Stud
4) Thoroughbred X Arabian X Appaloosa Stud
5) Gypsy Vanner X Irish Hunter Stud
6) Icelandic X KWPN X Lusitano Stud
7) Halflinger X Appaloosa Stud
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By Retired breeder, 18th May 2018 20:03:16


I read the posts and I had to try it too. Here's my little experiment
Hi!

I just really wanted to share 2 of my latest BLUPs (they have rosettes):

姜婷 Jiang Ting, KWPNxSelle
公主 Princess, GVxSelle

If anyone's interested in a foal, let me know. default smiley ^)
臺雯翔
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What would be a good breed to cross with an Arabian to get an all around horse for classical conpetitions?
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Perhaps try a TB, I think that would be a good fit. Or a Selle, but make it Arab dominant. Selle dominant crosses don't win because their GP is generally lower than the highest GP Selle. default smiley :@
臺雯翔
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By Retired breeder, 21st May 2018 11:04:09


GV crosses do super well in cross country! Top ones even win lots of rosettes!
By Retired breeder, 22nd May 2018 02:00:12
Newest addition to the cross family! Hoping to get top 5 in speed!
By Retired breeder, 22nd May 2018 20:37:08
censurer This message has been censored since it does not follow the forum rules.
My Selle Francais mare

Any recommendations as to a potential cross? Would love to strengthen the trot, but I don't want to reduce the jumping or speed! I'm at a lose, HELP haha
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I know it's not a KWPN, but I have a high GP Selle x Vanner you could try? Here she is: Princess. Let me know.
臺雯翔
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I did this as an experiment and he turned out better than I had expected

Do this cross with a higher GP mare and tears, he will be a monster!
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I have crunched some numbers and it looks like you'll need to do an initial cross with a paso then breed back with another paso x selle or kwpn. to get the right numbers.

I am in the process of doing 2 blups once I get the necessary bits that I require. I can help you with what I have to increase the trot and stabilize the speed and jumps. This will also increase your dressage as well.
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Im going to try and breed 2 crossbred horses with a total of 4 different breeds and im just wondering about which breed will the foal come out.

I have not decided in the breeds so will use an example to try and explain:

Dam: Arab dominant (50 GV x 50 Arab)

Sire: Lipi Dominant (50 Lipi x 50 KWPN)

In this situation which breed will the foal come out?
2nd breed indicated on the sire ?

Thank!
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This is a 4-way that I have done

the dominant breed takes on the grand-dam as shown in the foal from the link I have used is a Standardbred which is what the grand-dam is.
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Yes, I prefer to go by the sire's second listed breed (KWPN), as the breed order listing displays randomly. If the stallion you plan on using has a brother with the breed order listed as KWPN then Lipi second, the foal would be a Lipizzan instead because Lipizzan is listed second.

Here is an example that will give you a side by side family tree comparison.
This is a Russian Don dominant 4-way with a Russian Don as the grand dam. The sire has Russian Don listed second in his genetics.
This is her Akhal-Teke dominant cousin who is also a 4-way. Their sire's are full brothers, but the Teke dominant's sire has Teke listed second, whereas his brother had Russian Don listed second. The breed order flipped when I bred the paternal grandparents again.
Legacy Ann
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thank you!
Svart
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Hi everyone. I just started crossbreeding. Do you have any tips or things to remember? Thnx!!
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By Retired breeder, 26th May 2018 17:39:31
Hi!default smiley ^) I started crossbreeding recently because I like to see the results of the GP and the skills on the foals.default smiley :d I wanted a Welsh pony that will be doing pretty well in gallop comps, but I wanted to improve the speed skill for a little bit. So yesterday, I was breeding a Thoroughbred (which have higher speed skill than the Welsh ponies) mare with a Welsh pony stallion. And here he is, Hᴇxɪᴅᴇɴᴛ!default smiley :ddefault smiley (l) Do you think he will be doing well in gallop comps when he´s fully trained?default smiley :) Here is a link to Hᴇxɪᴅᴇɴᴛ if you wanna take a look at him: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=56197398


I think he's going to be great! default smiley ^) I'm very curious to how he really turns out, but I think you have a very great combination there! default smiley 8-)
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