[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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Please do not advertise sales or items wanted in this topic. I can turn a blind eye to the covers being offered (as long as they are not blatant advertisements) because we are, after all, trying to help each other progress and there is no filter on public covers for searching for crosses, but items sales and items wanted do not belong in any of the public forums and we have a sales forum for horse sales so please, lets keep our topic clean of the ads.

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By keepsake, 23rd February 2018 05:31:00
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Holy hound dogs, that is impressive, and I raise Gypsies competitively..or try to lol
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By Svart, 23rd February 2018 06:00:37
im so happy with her. she has win me 10 rosettes in maybe 3 hours plus 99 wins just today!!!
Just having trouble looking and finding a pure or cross stud that will allow me to keep the arabian breed in her offspring and high skills in Stamina/Dressage/Jumping.

Also!!!
I would like to know which breed does a foal inherit if its parents are both 50/50 of the same breeds?

Example!

Dam: Arab x TB but shes a Arab
Sire: Arab x TB but he is a TB

does the foal inherit the sire breed or is there a 50/50 chance of being born arab or TB?
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By Retired breeder, 23rd February 2018 19:56:49
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Since dad is a TB the foal will be a TB
By Svart, 23rd February 2018 20:09:53
thanks!

how about when they are the same breed?
Example:

Dam: Arab x TB shes a Arab
Sire: Arab x TB hes a Arab

(Arab x TB) x (Arab x TB) = born eather Arab or TB ?

or is born TB since i read that in this case the foal would come out as the second breed on the dam side?
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By esj, 23rd February 2018 23:24:11
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I am currently breeding Hanoverians, and I was wondering if there's been crossbreeding in this breed before? I mean, is it possible to breed a Hanoverian with another purebred warmblood and get a purebred Hanoverian offspring? I'm considering trying this out, to improve skills of my Hanos.

Has anyone done it before?

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By Svart, 23rd February 2018 23:43:32

Not sure if theres been any crosses with that breed, probably default smiley xd

Unfortunately when you breed 2 different breeds together you can never get the offspring to be 100% of only one breed.
Depending on the crosses you can get Hanoverian foals but they will never be pure.
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By keepsake, 24th February 2018 00:32:35


If you breed a Hano to another breed, you get what's called, a crossbred.

And I'm sure others have crossed them before.

I think I have more than one, but where...I can't recall. I have about 200 cross foals collecting dust because my finished ones aren't being used.

Hano cross mare
^ that mare can be used for custom foals, if needed. I have what I need.
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By esj, 24th February 2018 00:49:29
Just so there is no misunderstanding here, I know that when two breeds are crossbred, the offspring of course won't be of purebreed default smiley xd I only know they IRL (depending on the rules) will register Hanoverian halfblood as purebred, from what I have read default smiley 8-)

What I meant was, on Howrse, if I crossbreed, do I get a purebred or wil it show two breeds on the offspring's info?

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By esj, 24th February 2018 00:50:43
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That was meant as a eply to Svart's ost default smiley ^)
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By keepsake, 24th February 2018 01:19:58
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It will show 2 breeds, or up to 5, depending on the cross, because a cross is of course...a cross.

Only purebreds are marked as purebreds default smiley :d
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By Svart, 24th February 2018 01:29:59
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ooops default smiley xd misread everything then! default smiley xd
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By lovetopaint, 24th February 2018 17:20:36
Speaking of Hano crosses... Hano x Selle filly. 8947.68gp and maybe I'll blup her? Not quite sure if it's worth it right now.
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By BRM, 25th February 2018 01:30:40


It'll be marked one or the other breed it's crossed with, depending on parents or percentage. Like if you have 2 purebreds and breed them, the foal will be marked as the sire's breed. However, in its genetics tab it will show 50% X and 50% Y up to 5 breeds.
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By Retired breeder, 25th February 2018 01:55:28
So I'm thinking about [ulr=https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=55226626]covering her[/url] when she's BLUPed with an appy. Would it turn out ok?
By Retired breeder, 25th February 2018 01:56:19
sorry lol, this is what I meant
By amylinn(:, 25th February 2018 02:12:31
I just bred this gal. I'm debating rebreeding with Tears. Good idea?
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By Jazzyr70, 25th February 2018 19:27:39
I'm seriously struggling with my cross breeding and advice. I know Gypsies are good with bringing up trot but are there any others that are good all around?
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By amylinn(:, 25th February 2018 21:59:58
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Depends if you want to breed for skills or a comper. Personally, I prefer Lusi's for bringing up trot. There are random crosses throughout my breeding farms that have Lusi in them. Another breed I've enjoyed in the past is Crios. They aren't good at trot, but if bred with a Lusi, trot would go up.
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By Svart, 26th February 2018 12:15:13
If i breed two Arabian cossbreed horses:

Dam: Arab x TB
Sire: Arab x TB

Does the foal come out with the sire breed or comes out TB?
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By Legacy Ann, 26th February 2018 14:24:39
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When breeding two purebreds, the foal will always take the sire's breed.
When breeding two horses that have the same percentages of the same breeds in their genetics, it should take the mother's last listed breed. In this case a TB, if the breed order shown is how it appears in their genetics.

If the parents' breeds are different, but the percentages are the same the foal will take the sire's 2nd listed breed. If the dam is 50% Arab 50% Appy bred to a stallion that is 50% Gyspy 50% Lipizzaner, the foal will take the sire's 2nd listed breed which is Lipizzaner in that case.

I'll sometimes breed a test foal before blupping or spending breeding items just to be sure the foal turns out the breed I think it's supposed to be.
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By Eli92, 26th February 2018 14:56:25
Not quite sure if I should blup this one:M 10057.32
He is: 50 Mustang, 25 Marwari and 25 Thoroughbred

Genetic potential Total: 10057.32
Stamina 1896.05 Gallop 2153.59
Speed 2190.23 Trot 900.22
Dressage 1517.03 Jumping 1400.20

I think I should try to get a foal that is less Mustang dominant but still Mustang as I want to bred one that performs well in Barrel Racing
Any ideas?
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By Retired breeder, 26th February 2018 15:41:03
Hi,

Does someone have a good Lipizzaner combo for dressage??
I'm not sure anybody seen my question, I didn't see any responses to it...
If there was a response, I'm sorry for asking again.
Thank you for any help I can get. default smiley :)
By Jazzyr70, 26th February 2018 20:01:07
Finally I got a good one! Sui-Feng
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