[Info] Cross breeders
By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
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I'm wanting to crossbreed Misaki, Shagya Arabian, Lipizzan and Australian pony's but I'm not sure what they could all breed with, I haven't done any prior crossbreeding, but I understand it will take a long time to produce a rosette horse of each that I previously mentioned.
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I'm wanting to crossbreed Misaki, Shagya Arabian, Lipizzan and Australian pony's but I'm not sure what they could all breed with, I haven't done any prior crossbreeding, but I understand it will take a long time to produce a rosette horse of each that I previously mentioned. I've always had the best results getting consistent crossbred rosette winners out of pairing breeds with the same, or similar skill sets, that also have targeted genetics. Some breeds, like the Misaki, have "oddball" skill sets whose top 3 skills don't correspond to a competition, and they're also more evenly distributed so that, even if you crossed them with a breed that had a similar genetic skill set, the Misaki's lowered genetics are going to heavily bring down the breed(s) you cross with The Shagya and Australian Pony have a similar disadvantage. Both of these breeds do have a skill set designed for a specific competition, but their distribution still isn't as targeted towards the needed skills like the dominant Prix breeds. By "targeted" I mean that the horse's overall GP is given more towards 3 particular skills, rather than spread between 4, 5, or even all 6. It's why some breeds, Selles, dominant the Prix over other breeds with the same overall GP. Its genetics are shoved towards speed, jump and dressage, while the Australian Pony's is spread out more. Their public GP is also quite a bit lower than the top, which sets you back quite a bit more. I like recommending a KWPN dominant KWPN x Selle cross for show jumping, or Thoroughbred x Appaloosa cross for gallop because both pairs have high public GP, and have similar skill sets that are both highly targeted towards those skills. They also have breed only comps, which is great because a KWPN x Selle cross can't beat a purebred Selle (unless you breed a few generations beyond the top), because the KWPN speed brings down the Selle quite a bit, but it can beat a purebred KWPN. All that being said, what you can do is start running calculations with potential pairs, and just compare your estimated results with the top horses. Sometimes you can get lucky with the GP available in sales or covers, and you might be entering rosettes on a less competitive day.
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Bumping to prevent deletion
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Best breed to enhance gallop, trot, and jumping? Really looking for a horse to dominate in all western comps to breed with a criollo x paint x appy mare
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Thanks! I just breed whatever is ready to be bred, sometimes cross-breds, sometimes pure-breds. I am going to start thinking about what I am breeding for good quality show skills.
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Does anyone have a suggestion for a cross that would have high trot and jumping skills and a high GP? My crosses have all been poor at trail classes and I thought it might be fun to give it another go. At least with low level comps, I'm not quite ready to give rosettes another try yet
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Hello,
I wanted to know which two breeds of horses i could cross breed to have a relatively even skill distribution, where the top 3 skills and the rest are similar to an extent. Thanks 
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Hello, I wanted to know which two breeds of horses i could cross breed to have a relatively even skill distribution, where the top 3 skills and the rest are similar to an extent. Thanks
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Thank you so much I will try it out
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I'm looking for a crossbreed that would do very well in XC or Jumping. Any thoughts?
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