[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 16th October 2018 15:51:19
do you wonderful NIB breeders have any tips on searching the sales for foundation horses? it would be really useful if there was a button to tick default smiley :p
By Asfridur, 16th October 2018 16:13:31
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@lbenedict15 it's all your fault you know default smiley <:o)
I was so determined not to go there, yet I now find myself the owner of a... kinda somewhat smallish herd of trotters. At first I just wanted to have enough for 3 gens. But ended with 14, and needed 2 more to make 4 gens. Looked at the numbers and decided to go for 6 gens. So I suddenly ended up with 64. Where is the head-desk smiley default smiley xd

@Phantom413 it would seem we are a few doing them
- lbenedict15
- you
- lh591
- tigrelily
- me


@tigrelily 460 is the new thing. Expect massive gains when you breed the old GP's.
But the GP will be all over the place depending on just how many breed at the given time, and some Howrse algebra.

OG = Old GP stock (350 - 351,2)
RG = Rolling GP. The GP of the RG's is adjusted every week by Howrse. By visiting the breeds directory page, you can calculate the max of a given breed.

Example the curly. If you add all skills together: stamina, speed etc you end up with 4,138 meaning the max a RG Curly currently has is a GP of 4,138.

@lh591 visit the breeds directory page and add all skills together. That will be you max a RG can have.
Example with the Curly, I'd do a search like so:
Max GP < 4139
Skills < 1
Age < 8 months
and purebred

You could also add a max amount you want to pay, affixed or not, plus if you want to pay any passes.
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By tigrelily, 16th October 2018 17:02:53
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@Asfridur Appreciate the info.

btw my cousin only has 4 and just started working them. Her name is Pinque if anyone would like to make an introduction. She's cool and an adult, although she sometimes acts like a kid (don't we all default smiley :)).
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By tigrelily, 17th October 2018 05:47:55
How many horses will I need as a foundation base for say 6 gens?
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 17th October 2018 07:11:25
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If I remember right, you'll need 64 foundies for 6 generations.
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By lbenedict15, 17th October 2018 07:41:58
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Glad to see the trotters have ignited a fire! Wahoo! I have enough for five generation at the moment, and will likely stay there, but who knows, they may be addicting!
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By Retired breeder, 17th October 2018 15:39:40
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@Asfridur You are a genius! thank you very much for making that a whole lot easier to understand default smiley :)
By tigrelily, 23rd October 2018 14:44:01
Anyone need covers from fully blupped foundation French Trotters?
I have two stallions ready. Just send me a pm.
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By tigrelily, 23rd October 2018 16:02:02
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I'm putting up some foundy foals in Direct Sales.

Just wanted NIBers to know that they are available.
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By Pinque, 23rd October 2018 22:08:58
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I now have 32 French Trotters that I will be working on getting to 100% blupped. I'll also be working with my aunt, tigrelily, in producing purebred generations, in the future. If anyone else is interested in working with us, just send one of us a pm.

Looking forward to the future gens!!
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 1st November 2018 15:30:00
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I realize I'm crazy for doing this but I decided to go for 7 generations of Original Gain (OG) Paint horses (from the years 2007 to 2015). That means 64 pairs (A total of 128 horses!). I'm getting close - I just need a few more. Hope to get them before the massive sales overhaul on the 5th.

I'm working on blupping them - the going is pretty tough. Those early horses are now harder to get wins than even donkeys. I'm lucky if I win one comp. But If I can get them all to at least 60% blupped, I'll be satisfied at this point.

Since I'm working on blending both OG and Rolling Gain (RG). I have also have a good selection of early (2016) RG Paints as well. Once the Rolling Gain started, the changes were easy to follow and I have quite a number of them from 2017 up through 2018.

I don't know but I think I have one of the largest selections of Ouranus and Gaia Paint horses on Howrse! LOL!

Can't wait until I start breeding the NIBs!
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 1st November 2018 20:51:14
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Feel free to message me here or on Discord for fillers. I'm always happy to help.
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By Twinjodi, 2nd November 2018 18:41:02
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I've also decided to return to the NIB herd with this new set of Trotters. Right now I've only got about 10 pair between myself and my gaming partner - who btw if anyone needs any original foundation covers, let her know she's got a ton (Shisei is her name). I do have a first gen but I'm focusing right now on trying to get all my foundation pairings blupped first. Pretty close with my first.

What are people doing also with the range of GPs? Are you breeding the same GPs together or different ones? Example, 4110 with 4122s, etc?
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By Twinjodi, 4th November 2018 23:02:23
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: 1st Gen F
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter
Current GP: 4189.34
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=57748056
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By Retired breeder, 11th November 2018 02:13:27
hi, im going to try and not break rules here and im sorry if i do.
my question is about foundy collecting/collectors and draft foundys.
I'm trying to find out value of draft foundys and if people buy them or if there's no real market for them.
if you have any answers for me could you please pm me. im not trying to advertise i'm just trying to get information. i can't fully explain my issue without breaking the advertising rule so please pm me.default smiley :)
By Twinjodi, 11th November 2018 14:36:57
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Falon M 4200.26
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter
Current GP: 4200.26
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=57898129
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By tigrelily, 18th November 2018 22:55:19
Who is interested in or actively breeding French Trotters?

I know of: Twinjodi,, Pinque, and myself.
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By tigrelily, 18th November 2018 22:59:24
Are these players breeding FTs too?

Phantom413
- lbenedict15
- you
- lh591
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By Twinjodi, 19th November 2018 00:22:56
My NIB GP Entry w/ Shisei
Horse's Name: Todd x TF 4201.21 - F
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter
Current GP: 4201.21
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=58028554
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By Twinjodi, 19th November 2018 00:36:22
tigrelily, replace "you" with Asfridur and I think that's it for now that I know of default smiley :)
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By Twinjodi, 19th November 2018 00:37:12
Oh well besides my gaming partner Shisei lol >.<
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By Retired breeder, 19th November 2018 05:02:11
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Anmaira
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Kerry Bog
Current GP: 3832.26
Link to the Horse's Page: Anmaira
By BRM, 19th November 2018 12:18:23
Anyone using new GP Welsh Ponies?
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By lbenedict15, 21st November 2018 17:33:49
@Tigrelily- I have a bunch of FTs that I am *slowly* working on. I am getting used to a new work schedule, and haven't devoted enough time to them yet.
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By tigrelily, 23rd November 2018 06:16:38
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So, this is what I have so far for those players breeding French Trotters.

~tigrelily

-Phantom413

- lbenedict15

- Asfridur

- lh591

-Twinjodi

-Shisei

- lbenedict15,

If no one has an objection, I'd like to send friend requests to everyone and hopefully we can exchange ideas and tips on raising the FTs.

I'll check back in a day or two and then send the pms.

wish everyone good luck! default smiley :-))
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