[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 6th April 2019 00:37:58


In my opinion, I don't see a problem. As long as you don't use a fertility wand and then breed the siblings. The pastry divines are individual horses from Ouranos and Gaia.

I don't have them myself but I checked out an example of someone who has bred a couple pastries and this is how the tree looks:

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By Axel'sMommy, 7th April 2019 09:50:32
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Diamond Dreams
Horse's Breed: Hanoverian (and a unicorn at that!)
Current GP: 618.73
Link to the horse's page: Hanoverian Uni
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By Misabel, 13th April 2019 18:37:17
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Yeah, that should be fine, as long as you're careful not to use foals from the same Divine pair more than once (they all have unique ID numbers so it's easy to tell). The foals are still purebreds so they can be ranked. This came up years ago when Qilin came along, and it's never been a problem.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 24th April 2019 03:26:45
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How's everyone doing?
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By Twinjodi, 25th April 2019 18:07:10
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Frenchies are doing great for me, struggling with getting my Holsteiner wins though! So trying a few different training combos, etc to see what will work.
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By Isle Esroh, 27th April 2019 14:57:51
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Anyone breeding KWPN? I just got a foundie foal of them from Hipparion and I'm hoping to maybe start a line if I can find another. I'd love to support someone who's already breeding them maybe?
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By Retired breeder, 2nd May 2019 04:26:57
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Hi! I’m trying to breed NiB, I’m new and have three sets of foundation pairs. My problem is most of my mates threw fillies. Should I donate and get more stones to make foundation shetlands, or is there other NiB breeders of them who might trade me second generation goals? I need at least two colts.
By Axel'sMommy, 3rd May 2019 06:59:26
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I would suggest trying to save up and buy more foundations. The more foundations you have, the more generations you can get. Start with at least one more pair that way you can get to one more generation than you currently are at. At only 7 days seniority you have a really good start!!! Welcome default smiley :)
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By Asfridur, 3rd May 2019 16:24:32
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Just bred my first 4th gen Shagya from old GP stock. It's a bittersweet experience, since my plan was to fully BLUP the NIB's.
But that's so not happening with the comp and GP changes.

How ever the baby's still a NIB, and special default smiley (l) ... so there... here's me moving along working more low end pixles
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By Retired breeder, 7th May 2019 18:07:33
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Hello to all! Are there still people here who actively work with the OG 350 foundies and their offspring? I haven't been around in a long time and, as I understand, there have been some changes that aren't very NIB-friendly. But is it so much of an uphill battle that people no longer bother? Or is there still some small community here?
By Axel'sMommy, 9th May 2019 03:18:50
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I only work with OG 350-351.2 GP Hanoverians. We have several breeders that still focus on the OG lines. The pass changes have made getting foundations even more difficult and far more expensive and the game has gone completely non OG GP friendly for sure. It's aggravating when some of us have literally put YEARS of work into it.
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By Misabel, 12th May 2019 01:46:52
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I'm still working with OG's. Eight generations in, it's a bit late to turn back.

The new changes make getting wins harder than ever, but I'm plugging along...cramming on as many bonuses as possible (I dropped 5 million equus on Posiedon's Packs during that special offer last week, yikes). Still, it can take weeks or even months to get 20 wins on a foundie.

The good(ish) news is that I work slow - like, really really slow - and I always keep a few foundies in the 'training barn' at all times. So I have a backlog of BLUPed ones I haven't even used yet.

At least the foals have higher GPs now, so getting their wins is a bit easier.
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 13th May 2019 20:14:27
Hi, this is just to let you all know I'm still NIBing Paints. NIBing is a slow process but is starting to pick up some speed for me. (So don't get discouraged if you are new.)

I currently have 10 first generation Paint NIBs.

1st Generation GP is from 418.44 to 444.44 in ten horses (That's an average of 428.496)

It's a wide range but I can go back and see it's because of a few factors. The 418's sire was rescued late in it's life and was already losing skills when I bred it. And the 444 parents were fully blupped before I acquired them. (Meaning they both had 20 wins.)



I agree, Misabel it can take quite awhile to get horses blupped and ready to breed!



So True!!! default smiley (8)
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By Retired breeder, 14th May 2019 17:57:21
I’m trying to find NiB shetland breeders. I’m also searching for more foundation stock. I got one foundation mare to BLUP. Everyone else is not really cooperating with me. I need to learn how to earn money so I can deck them out with all the bonuses.

If anyone else does shetlands, could you please send a message? I’d love some tips.
By Retired breeder, 14th May 2019 18:02:55
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I’m actually pretty proud I have ten pairs of foundations now. Playing from mobile mostly is a little hard. I have to keep redoing the search to check and see what the lineage is when looking for foundation ponies, it doesn’t stay when I hit the back button.
By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 16th May 2019 22:54:28
@RainbowRottie Sounds like you're making a lot of progress. I've never really played from mobile but it sounds difficult. I'll keep an eye on the sales for shetlands! Glad you joined the nib community!
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By BRM, 16th May 2019 23:15:50
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Awe man. There's a few 350 GP Foundie Morgans I totally want but don't have the passes for. default smiley :'(
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By suebee104, 22nd May 2019 04:22:35
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I breed the first five horse breeds. I can always use help. If you can message me with quote for foals or covering fees, I would appreciate it. Thank you.
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By Gabriel_I_am, 22nd May 2019 12:37:53
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The whole time I've played this game, the only breed I've ever truly loved is the Thoroughbreds. I am trying to collect one 350 foundation of each coat color. I only have the cremello and liverflaxen chestnut. If anyone is selling, please give me a shout
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By Asfridur, 23rd May 2019 18:44:55

I grabbed one of them, so now I finally have a pair of morgs. Has taken me years to do. So hard to find.
Now I plan to slowly try and BLUP them over gods knows how many weeks or more.
I had some stuff saved so they'll be overloaded with all the shiny stuff I can toss their way, Love that breed!!


I missed out one some Shagya. Maybe the seller changed his/her mind
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By BRM, 23rd May 2019 21:08:22
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Luckily I've been able to grab a couple. I did message both players that were selling some if they were willing to do equus, but neither one has gotten back to me. I'm gonna keep an eye on the one player's stock that had multiples.
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By midnight stargazer, 25th May 2019 09:24:36
As a friendly offer, if anyone one is trying to breed NIB Newfoundlands or paints, I have a few fully BLUPed mares. I can breed foals if you want.
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By midnight stargazer, 25th May 2019 10:04:50
Forgot to mention, they're foundations as well.
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By Retired breeder, 26th May 2019 09:20:55
If anyone's up for a BLUP party sometime, feel free to shoot me a PM. default smiley :)
By Twinjodi, 26th May 2019 23:28:37
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One of my first 4128 pairings!

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Aff F 4226.42¹
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter
Current GP: 4226.42
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=59551238
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