[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By lbenedict15, 26th November 2018 01:51:14
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: ƘƝƗƓǶƬ
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Knabstrupper
Current GP: 3611.72
Link to the Horse's Page: ƘƝƗƓǶƬ
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By tigrelily, 28th November 2018 05:37:56
Is anyone working on Barbs?
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By tigrelily, 28th November 2018 20:23:06
I'm starting to put foundies in sales, of breeds that I'm no longer interested in breeding.
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By Axel'sMommy, 13th December 2018 14:34:28
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I just wanted to pop in and say hi to everyone. It's been a minute since I've been on. How is everyone's projects coming along? I need to get back to working on my foundations. Now that I have almost 150 Hanos, I have more than enough to do lol.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 21st December 2018 01:11:56


Hey Axel'sMommy! I've been getting back into working on my project after like, a two month break. lbenedict15 graciously gave me a whole load of Hackneys so now I'm up to 8 generations. I just need one more Hackney and something around 10 z. bolts. lol
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 30th December 2018 04:07:40
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Okay, I'm really excited because I have my first true NIB Entry. This is especially exciting because I can finally get my project going. Two days ago I got my last foundation paint horse that I was seeking - a rare 2007!

If I had known how hard it was going to be to get to this point I might have chucked the whole project but now I'm so pumped I can hardly stand it! default smiley (7)

My entry is going to look really low and puny here because my project is to blend the original gain paints with the rolling gain paints and I chose to do this by year to honor the game I have come to love (warts and all - yes, I'm not fond of all the changes either).

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Almond
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Paint
Current GP: 430.1
Link to the Horse's Page:
Almond
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2018 01:56:38
Hi everyone! I recently created a new account after leaving the game years ago. I have a Gaia's Foal and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for what I should go for. I currently have 2 Irish Hunter foundations. Are there any breeds whose foundations have really high demand?
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2019 04:05:55
Hello, everyone. Sadly, I believe it is my time to leave the game. I haven’t played for quite some time and would rather the horses and items I’ve accumulated go to players who will appreciate them and use them. If anyone is interested in Appy founders, please let me know.
By Retired breeder, 8th January 2019 20:54:41
Hello Everyone!
I have decided to get out of NIB, i have a few foundies and i was thinking someone might be able to use them in their breeding program?

feel free to pm me if interested
By Retired breeder, 9th January 2019 22:37:57
I've only bought one bought one foundation horse off of the auctions, but am planning on getting more. Last time i clicked on each horse and dug through pedigrees to see of there were any crossbreds, so I'm wondering if there's a quicker way to check if a horse is NIB when I go through auctions.

Thank you!
By Twinjodi, 11th January 2019 01:52:26
Sorry to see you guys go! I know myself I cleared out my own NIBs back and now starting up again.

Bwoller, unfortunately at this time there is no easier way to do it.
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By tigrelily, 23rd January 2019 16:39:17
I've looked over the main topic and have noticed that the French Trotters have not yet been included, yet other new foundation breeds have been.

Why are our Frenchies not included? default smiley *-)

I know Twinjodi has posted a horse or two.

I think the efforts of French Trotters breeders should be included. default smiley (y)
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By Storms Ransome, 24th January 2019 17:52:39
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@tigrelily and Twinjodi, I was about to come in here to announce my retirement from NIBing but seeing you two posting in here, maybe I'll hold on a little longer. All my fellow NIBers who I got introduced to NIBing by seem to have gone their separate ways. But maybe it's worth sticking around now.

Storm
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By Rymskynx, 24th January 2019 21:30:29
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I check in here as often as I see new messages, but I'm not much for posting in the forums. I'm still working away in my little corner, mostly still working with NIB Newfies. I don't spend money on the game anymore so my personal progress just gets slower. default smiley (lol) I admit I'm more a collector now than a breeder, but getting wins on the original gp foundies has gotten more difficult. I don't ever plan on actually giving it up though.
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By Asfridur, 27th January 2019 17:49:55
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I'm still here as well guys and gals.
Struggling with the new comp change, it's driving me mental.
Not at all happy with the other changes either, but I still dabble around a little. No way near as active as I normally am, but I refuse to give up on my NIB's.
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By Retired breeder, 27th January 2019 17:57:12
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It would be so nice if there was a separate colored star for NIB purebreds.

That said, I’m not NIB breeding in this account- and just starting up on my US one- so it wouldn’t help me much, I just think it would be cool. And save a LOT of time.
By HYDEIST, 28th January 2019 17:16:29
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Poking my head in to say I'm still here. More out of defiance than a genuine will to play the game... The sly comp change means I haven't got a single win on a foundie, and it was tough before.

I'm pretty much just a massive hoarder now. And I was so close to having all my foundie Peruvian unicorns at 100 BLUP. Used to be able to get a win here and there on them. The Connies are something else entirely. I either have to become a 70 BLUP breeder, or I don't breed. (And if I see any sign of a certain rumoured BMI, I'm going to turn over a table.)

Truly sad to watch a game I loved go down the pan due to poor decisions but what can you do.
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By BRM, 28th January 2019 20:35:44
I'm still lurking around as well, just haven't done any actual breeding in gods know how long. Been trying to push out some BLUPped horses/unicorns....at least until they're 10 years of age and bolded out...I give up on seeing 100 BLUP on some of my stock.
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By Twinjodi, 29th January 2019 00:49:47
I'm still helping Shisei (my team partner) try to get her original GP foundies win. I do usually get one a month! LOL But I agree, it was difficult before, now it's impossible! Which does make me sad because it's making NIBbers like me stop trying with the originals and scratching their whole herd.

@StormsRansome, honestly when the new breed comes out I would jump on it. These new breeds are SOOO much easier to BLUP than the originals! This helped me so much more get my "NIB" back! I might actually try again with whatever new breed comes out! It's making me work and match, etc default smiley :)

@tigrelily, the person who updated this doesn't update it ever really much anymore. None of the newer breeds are included. I think it's MAYBE updated once every three months? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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By Twinjodi, 29th January 2019 00:51:06
@wolfcat11, that would make sales SO MUCH easier but won't ever happen because of coding complications I'm sure would happen.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 30th January 2019 05:38:59
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@Twinjodi If I remember correctly, Misabel's the person that checks pedigrees and lets the mods know to update the lists.


Also... y'all, I am totally up for filling comps. I've got around 150 fillers sitting around perfect for the 350 Foundations.
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By Axel'sMommy, 31st January 2019 15:48:43
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Holy cow, Storms Ransome don't go! I've been taking a break for awhile but I've made the mistake of leaving once and selling my stock. I won't ever do that again lol. I can tell the NIB board has certainly slowed down a bit though default smiley :(
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By victoriaemmah, 1st February 2019 14:00:54
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Starting a Lusitano NIB project, have a male and female foundation horse, mare is currently pregnant with a 2nd gen. PM me if you're interested in talking about the breeding and helping each other out! Will also offer covers with my stallion.
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 2nd February 2019 03:12:04
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Don't Go, Storms Ransome! I would miss you too!

I'm not fast with my NIB project but I can't let it go - it's still a way to play the game that's NOT controlled by Howrse. Sure they've made it harder and harder, but they'll have to wrangle my horses from me before I give up on my NIBs! And I would hate to be doing this all alone.default smiley :s

If the breeding that's done on the game were true to life, there would be all kinds of genetic abnormalities. I like to think we who do the NIB projects have the best horses out there! I am proud to be a Howrse NIBer! default smiley (l)
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By Philoselene, 2nd February 2019 03:23:51
If anyone is working with foundation (350) horses still in the below breeds:

Standardbred
Thoroughbred
Appaloosa
Quarter Horse
Arabian
Newfoundland Pony
Paint
Canadian
Hanoveranian
Chincoteague
PSH
Irish Hunter
Hackney


I have breeding pairs that I don't have an issue using to help with your causes for NIB
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