[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
208
It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
Go to page:
By Tryniti, 7th February 2019 17:58:09
1
Hello fellow Howrse lovers,

I am fairly new to the game and I love the idea of NIB, so I hope that this post follows the guidelines for this particular thread.

As I said, I love the NIB idea, so I’ve started playing around with a couple of breeds with this in mind. Currently I have:

Donkey
Shire
Kerry Bog (unicorns and regular…I purchased passes at the ‘right’ time)
Gypsy Vanners

While I’ve been having fun on my own, I can see how working with others would make my experience MUCH more fun. I’m wondering if there are teams out there that are looking for members, even newer ones to the game like me default smiley :).

Thanks for your time reading my post … happy Howrsing around :P
Tryniti
  • Posted messages: 1
  • Karma: 10 points
  • Seniority: 1,368 days
  • equestrian center
    Zion
By lbenedict15, 13th February 2019 11:21:32
3
Welcome to those that are new to the NIB community! I hope you come to enjoy it and stick around. We are all great here! Great hearing from all the long time NIB breeders out there too, you have truly been an inspiration to me to keep plugging forward and always improve my herd.

I am getting back to doing more NIB breeding instead of the competitive. My internet just can't keep up, and my new job just doesn't allow enough time to competitively BLUP. So, my NIB's are getting the attention they deserve! I am hoping to be a lot more active in the coming months, so if anyone needs help, feel free to give a shout!
lbenedict15
  • Posted messages: 3,403
  • Karma: 10 points
By kooldogz7, 14th February 2019 05:36:40
Is anyone on that would mind helping me with wins? She's a 1st generation for my NIB project. Her name is Vision's Royalty and she's a Curly.
kooldogz7
  • Posted messages: 749
  • Karma: 10 points
By kooldogz7, 14th February 2019 06:00:24
I'll also be on tomorrow if that works better to help me get my NIB horses 20 wins.
kooldogz7
  • Posted messages: 749
  • Karma: 10 points
By tigrelily, 17th February 2019 20:04:33
2
Horse's Name: Rouen 4204.67

Horse's Breed: French Trotter

Current GP: 4204.67

Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=58461743
tigrelily
  • Posted messages: 5,872
  • Karma: 10 points
By kooldogz7, 18th February 2019 01:27:04
Click to display
Does anyone know how the new competition changes will effect our NIB horses? Will it make it easier to win or even more complicated?
kooldogz7
  • Posted messages: 749
  • Karma: 10 points
By Mrs.Gadberry, 18th February 2019 16:46:05
Looking for a foundation Quarter horse stallion to cover my Foundation Mare if anyone has one ?
Mrs.Gadberry
  • Posted messages: 63
  • Karma: 10 points
By Misabel, 18th February 2019 19:52:24
2
No need for a spoiler, kooldogz, as the game already PMed everyone that this change was coming. default smiley (y)

Anyway, it's hard to say what difference it will make for us because in preprod, not enough players are actively working low-skilled horses to really let you see how it's going to go.

If you're already using rookie comps, it doesn't seem like much will change at the bottom end of the skill range - assuming that I'm interpreting the message correctly, the horses I've been losing to would still have been allowed to enter. But I suppose we will find out. It would be nice if it does end up helping, as the last batch of changes made things even harder.
Misabel
  • Posted messages: 20,868
  • Karma: 10 points
By kooldogz7, 19th February 2019 01:19:20
Ok, thanks Misabel. default smiley :)
kooldogz7
  • Posted messages: 749
  • Karma: 10 points
By Storms Ransome, 20th February 2019 10:05:56
2
You guys are impossible default smiley ^) I would never sell off my stock even if I did end up retiring. I also do "updated Foundies" with the breeds I originally started with. I just have no motivation to do much without the ranks being updated anymore too :/ I feel so neglected in this game, sometimes default smiley (lol).
Storms Ransome
  • Posted messages: 3,150
  • Karma: 10 points
By kooldogz7, 21st February 2019 03:49:46
1
So I blupped my first foundie since the comp changes. I was able to get my 20 wins before the age of 8. Yay! the only problem I had was getting stomped on but thankfully I was still able to get my needed wins. You do get kicked out of all the other rookie comps but I would rather get kicked out and get the wins than not win at all. Hopefully, this new comp change will make it easier on us NIBer's.
kooldogz7
  • Posted messages: 749
  • Karma: 10 points
By Asfridur, 21st February 2019 17:31:56
3
That is great Storms Ransome - I'd hate to see you leave!!

Gratz kooldogz7 - that is amazing! I need to test it one a few of mine.

I'm rather discouraged, and honestly disgusted about all the changes so not very active at all as of late. But IF I can get wins on my old GP*s and lower ends, there might be hope for me to returning to a more active state again.
Asfridur
  • Posted messages: 9,767
  • Karma: 10 points
By Twinjodi, 22nd February 2019 19:04:14
1
I've been getting some good wins on a lower GP horse I'm working on. I'm still not to clear as there are still "rookie" marked competitions and "non-rookie" marked competitions in this new system, but still for horses that have less than 20 wins. Wondering if the "non-rookie" ones are for higher skilled horses? I don't know.

Going to attempt to start doing these Holsteiners (4457+) in the Insect World challenge. Let me know if anyone would like to join me on this endeavor! default smiley :)
Twinjodi
  • Posted messages: 944
  • Karma: 10 points
By kooldogz7, 22nd February 2019 21:15:03
1
So far so good. I've been able to totally blup 3 foundies since the comps were changed. Been able to get my 20 wins around age 6. These foundies are some of the new ones that have 2000 to 3000 gp though. Has anyone had an easier time getting wins with the original foundies?
kooldogz7
  • Posted messages: 749
  • Karma: 10 points
By lbenedict15, 23rd February 2019 10:42:40
2
I've been trying a few things with my original Holsties. They have been rather successful in dressage comps lately, since the previous comp change. This new change I haven't had much time to play around with, but it has been much easier to get wins with 3 fillers. I will keep messing around, especially this coming week as I am working 3-11 and the hubby won't be home to antagonize me default smiley :p I have definitely found it much easier to get wins though. I am pulling in one win for every five entered at least with just my one filler on a good day. Every win is one step closer! My higher GP foundies I haven't had any issues with ever, so I can't really say if it is easier.
lbenedict15
  • Posted messages: 3,403
  • Karma: 10 points
By HYDEIST, 23rd February 2019 12:23:15
I'm having issues in dressage with a fresh G1 Peruvian. I even loaded her up... I got one win out of masses entered. I just get crushed by everything. Peruvians were historically awesome in dressage, too... anyone remember my boy Santeri, the avenger of crushed foundies? He can't get a win any more either.

My original unicorns do no better. It's very disappointing. Basically, they fixed nothing from where I'm sitting.

Guess my Frenchies will be getting more exercise...
HYDEIST
  • Posted messages: 1,531
  • Karma: 10 points
By EmmaKate66, 23rd February 2019 15:00:48
3


I've got a whole farm of foundie friendly fillers so let me know when you're comping and I'll be happy to help out default smiley :)
EmmaKate66
  • Posted messages: 6,540
  • Karma: 10 points
By Storms Ransome, 26th February 2019 07:37:52
It's nice to see some older players talking in here again talking about stuff.
Storms Ransome
  • Posted messages: 3,150
  • Karma: 10 points
By HYDEIST, 26th February 2019 14:51:58
@EmmaKate66

Hi! Thanks so much for the offer, I'll be sure to let you know if I make another attempt - I'm angrily comp avoiding right now! I remember when you did... Marwaris? My memory is going, eep. Good to see you though!
HYDEIST
  • Posted messages: 1,531
  • Karma: 10 points
By EmmaKate66, 26th February 2019 15:45:40
Haha yeah I did Marwaris. I've been off the game for years and I'm just back for a short while so I don't want to start up another project (especially with the way things have been going with comps etc). So just doing some Unicorn breeding and trying to get my ec comps up to rosette level.
EmmaKate66
  • Posted messages: 6,540
  • Karma: 10 points
By kooldogz7, 27th February 2019 14:36:40
Is anyone breeding the Holsteiner?
kooldogz7
  • Posted messages: 749
  • Karma: 10 points
By lbenedict15, 27th February 2019 16:17:37
2
I breed the OG Holsties, and I have a small stash of RG, but they are older RG, with 3000-3200 GP. Debating on if I want to try for the new ones, but I think I have enough projects going as it is default smiley xd
lbenedict15
  • Posted messages: 3,403
  • Karma: 10 points
By Twinjodi, 28th February 2019 01:59:15
1
I'm attempting to start a small herd of them but collectors are getting a lot of them right now yet. For any of those wondering, we are now at 4456-4470 for the current foundation Holsteiners.
Twinjodi
  • Posted messages: 944
  • Karma: 10 points
By Storms Ransome, 2nd March 2019 09:14:18
That means that the rest of the breeds are too :/
Storms Ransome
  • Posted messages: 3,150
  • Karma: 10 points
By gowildkratts, 2nd March 2019 19:56:48
1
Is this horse a NIB?
Because if so, you need to do some updating.

https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=58758446
gowildkratts
  • Posted messages: 1,436
  • Karma: 10 points
Go to page: