[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By BRM, 26th July 2018 20:17:29


Kinda putting it on a shelf to collect dust at the moment. Going to have a major career change that could end up with me being on Howrse a few times a week instead of everyday like I have been.
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By Asfridur, 27th July 2018 05:09:15
Sorry to hear that MoonRider. Don't be a stranger you hear.

Congratulations with the new job!
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By BRM, 27th July 2018 14:19:07
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I'll try not to be. Lol. It'll hopefully get me out of the hole I'm in, but I know it ain't gonna be easy since the industry is male dominated and I'll likely be fighting for drive miles once a year is up.
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By suebee104, 30th July 2018 00:03:19
Anyone have any Arabian or Thoroughbred NIB studs for sale (1st or 2nd Gen)?
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By Asfridur, 30th July 2018 06:11:20
@suebee104 you might want to get in contact with either:

Arabians:
- Driananium (going slow)
- dark_angel2788
- stryker777337
- Sylevar Falcori

Thoroughbred:
- Misabel

Bear in mind though, I'm not sure if they do sell their NIB's. But it's worth a try.
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By MACARONIE, 1st August 2018 15:37:10
Does anyone actually still work with the original gp foundies? I discovered that I have a few of them and I've been contemplating the idea of potentially selling them. I'm not exactly sure that I will though but I'm curious. I think I also have some of the new gp ones but I believe that those are all drafts.I'd probably be more willing to sell those if I do decide to sell however.
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By Retired breeder, 1st August 2018 22:29:36
Who breeds Quarter Horses and Connemara Ponies?
By wildeflowurs, 2nd August 2018 01:30:38
Hello everyone -

I've been a long time player, 5+ years... but I'm pretty sure my old account was deleted due to inactivity.

Well, I've been wanting to try breeding NIB Brumbies... any pointers? I'm not sure what to look for in sales, I've never really dabbled in NIB breeding.

Any help is greatly appreciated! default smiley (l)
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By Azhure, 2nd August 2018 03:24:27
@MACRONIE, yup I do and a few other players in here too I think.

@suebee104, if your not looking for foundations I have some arabs or TBs that are 2nd gen that I'd be willing to sell.

@wildeflowurs, best bet is to get foundations, horses with ouranus and gaia as parents. As alot of players don't count horses as NIB if they have disappeared horses in their lineage so breeding from your own stock is the most effective way to avoid this.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 2nd August 2018 06:58:16
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I do. Asfridur, October Lilac, scaleys, and Storms Ransome are other players I can remember that do.
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 9th August 2018 16:46:15
Are there still OG horses from when the game began in, what 2007 - 2008?

There's nothing in sales and I'm looking for at least a covering for my Paint NIBs. I have some paint horses 2010 but I think it would be cool to NIB starting all the way back to the original horses. (or as close as possible - lol!)

Anyone have tips on how to connect with other players that have Paints that go back that far?
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 9th August 2018 17:19:34
I'm also looking for the very first Rolling Gain Paints that were brought out in 2016. I have one that is 2211 but I'm not sure if there were any lower GP for the new rolling gain horses.
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By Storms Ransome, 10th August 2018 05:47:58


I started in 08. I don't know if any of those foundies would count for what you're looking for.

Storm
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By suebee104, 14th August 2018 23:47:20

I breed NIB Quarter Horses and have Studs to cover mares @ 500e.
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By Axel'sMommy, 20th August 2018 02:50:23
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I only work with the original 350-351.2 GP foundies. I breed Hanoverians. I haven't been super active lately though, not exactly by choice lol. I pop in to say hi though and see what's going on.
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 22nd August 2018 03:05:37
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I am thrilled!!! I got an OG Paint from 2008 in direct sales! Success Woohoo! Now if only I can get 2007 and 2009! I want to try and NIB Paints from the year 2007 to the present.

It's like pulling teeth to get any OG from before 2010. It's interesting though - it had a pet with it. Did pets come with all the horses in those early years?
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By Asfridur, 22nd August 2018 15:20:34
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@⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹ congratz nice find.

No you had to pay passes for them. Back then the most costly ones were the griffin, dragon and ghosts.
(There are 4 versions of the dragon and 3 of the ghosts. Was random what kind you got when you bought one in the BM).
I've plain forgotten if the phoenix was among the expensive ones.

Anyone remember how much the expensive ones went for. Was it 2 passes?
....think it might have been default smiley (lol)

Later howrse released the ladybug and bee in a promo. You could only get them in the promo. Was not possible to buy them with passes like you could with the other companions.
I opted out on those after trying a few times to get one of each. I've forgotten if it was a HOP promo.

The bee and the ladybug are very rare and sell for a crazy amount of passes now.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 22nd August 2018 18:10:18
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I believe so.

Hah, your message's got me reminiscing, Asfridur.
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 26th August 2018 19:59:10
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If a NIB Unicorn was born from Foundation Unicorn parents but the horn was removed from the NIB foal, will the foal be considered okay to use by the NIB community for breeding NIB RIDING HORSES?

I only ask because Howrse no longer allows unicorns and riding horses to interbreed. default smiley (o)
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By BRM, 26th August 2018 21:41:52


I don't see why not. Unis throw regular horses all the time, so it would make logical sense to use the foals given to do any project you have your mind set on.
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By Azhure, 27th August 2018 01:08:28
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I was super lucky to get a TB foundie for 500e in directs last week. I think someone was just selling off horses as there was a GA and some others too for 500e.
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By Azhure, 27th August 2018 01:42:20
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Not sure if these still get updated but....
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Apollo
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Quarter Horse (RG)
Current GP: 3408.00
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Cennamara
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Connemara (RG)
Current GP: 3383.00
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Qurion
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Quarter Pony (RG)
Current GP: 3504.00
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Moonlight
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Gypsy Vanner (RG)
Current GP: 3518.00
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Winter King
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Tennessee Walker (RG)
Current GP: 3504.00
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Bravely Gaining
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Percheron (RG)
Current GP: 704.00
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Marry Me
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Drum (RG)
Current GP: 2288.00
Link to the Horse's Page: Link
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By Azhure, 27th August 2018 01:52:00
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And some others default smiley :d

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Now
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Paint (OG)
Current GP: 461.44
Link to the Horse's Page:Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Milo
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Morgan (OG)
Current GP: 411.95
Link to the Horse's Page:Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Scared
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Lusitano (RG)
Current GP: 3492.46
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Marbled
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Fjord (OG)
Current GP: 447.42
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Foreground
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Argentinean Criollo (OG)
Current GP: 426.99
Link to the Horse's Page: Link

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Shine On
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Lipizzan (OG)
Current GP: 451.15
Link to the Horse's Page: Link
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By Misabel, 2nd September 2018 19:53:12


They do still get updated, however, the horses in your first post are all foundies, which are not eligible for the rankings. To be ranked, a horse must be bred by a player, not created by the game - so, at least 1st generation NIB. Otherwise, with the new GP system, folks would just be able to keep buying and submitting new foundies, and never have to BLUP a thing! default smiley ;)

The horses in your second post were submitted to a mod, who will update the list when time permits.
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 12th September 2018 05:05:59
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What is a realistic GP number I can expect to get after 6 generations of OG NIBs? 500? 600? (This is keeping in mind that I fully blup or blup as close as I can to 100 before breeding.)

My goal is to breed as high as I can before blending OG with RG. I was truly fortunate to get a 981 RG and have several staggered RG to get me up to speed with current RG numbers.

Can you believe the RG is now in the 4K?! default smiley :o
That's all in 2 1/2 years time!!!
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