[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By gowildkratts, 15th April 2018 15:07:11
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Grub
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Canadian Horse
Current GP: 450.47
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=55672433

Parents are both 350 GP Foundies... thanks everyone!default smiley :d
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By Eventing24, 15th April 2018 16:49:11
Hello everyone!
I'm curious to find out more about NIB horses. default smiley :)
What is the purpose of breeding a NIB horse, are there any advantages or disadvantages? I'm planning on inbreeding my foundation horses, but now I'm a little unsure if I'm doing the wrong thing in case it will put me at a disadvantage! In general, do people mind (in the sales) if a horse is NIB or IB or not?

Thanks in advance for any answers default smiley ^)
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By Retired breeder, 15th April 2018 17:52:03
there aren't any advantages or disadvantages. the purpose i s'ppose is just a different type of challenge to the game. competitive people make use of inbreeding as a way to advance their line's genetic potential faster.

people don't mind at all. im fairly certain 90%+ of the horses in sales are inbred, somewhere. also, if you're breeding the horses you got from the tutorial, that isn't considered in breeding. the beginning of every NIB line is actually foundie horses (horse's whose parents are Ouranos and Gaia)
By Storms Ransome, 15th April 2018 18:25:40
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Name: Dancing Snowflake
Breed: Appaloosa
Current GP: 513.52
Link: Dancing Snowflake
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By Storms Ransome, 15th April 2018 18:26:49
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Name: Double Star
Breed: Quarter Horse
Current GP: 450.30
Link: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=55778135]Double Star
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By Eventing24, 15th April 2018 19:56:25
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Thanks so much for the info! That's really helpful default smiley (y)
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By October Lilac, 17th April 2018 04:37:27
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You guys knew I wouldn't be able to stay away from the NIB community foreverdefault smiley xd

I decided to do ALL the Paint projects:

NIB rolling gain Paint unicorns
NIB rolling gain Paint horses
NIB original paint horses

The only project I don't think I'll be able to afford is the original paint unicornsdefault smiley xd I'll leave those alone.

Anyways, I accidentally started collecting these a while ago, so hey, I already have a herd of each. Why not. Now... do we still have a "registry" somewhere that we list what breeds we are doing?
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By Storms Ransome, 17th April 2018 04:39:36
I think I still have one in my forum you can use. Also, we have a Filler chat going on if you want in! I'd love to play with you again!!!
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By TheHobbyBarn, 19th April 2018 01:35:11
Are there any NIB breeding teams?
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By Storms Ransome, 19th April 2018 02:04:27
Not in here that I am aware of. Doesn't mean there couldn't be one.
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By Asfridur, 19th April 2018 17:38:12

There is one that I know of. Namely my drums.
Currently I’m a one woman team, while my mates are MIA. Not looking for any new members sorry.

Offtopic struggling with HDD errors on my PC so while I’m working on fixing it,I’ll be using my tabet... just ugh default smiley :-x
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By Asfridur, 19th April 2018 18:07:46
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So happy to see your back October Lilac default smiley (y)
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By Retired breeder, 19th April 2018 18:27:11
I am looking for horses from 2007 in the following breeds with a gp of 350 not fully bupped no stars and must be gaia horses. I figured posting this in the nib might be the best way to find some of these horses

Quarter Horse
Thoroughbred
Paint Horse
Welsh Pony
New Foundland Pony
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By Retired breeder, 19th April 2018 19:25:20
You can search for horses in the sales with <352 GP and born the year of 2007:
Click to display

As you can see, just doing that pulled up some horses
By Storms Ransome, 19th April 2018 19:38:33
Horses I can't afford. default smiley (lol)
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By TheHobbyBarn, 19th April 2018 23:35:28
I'm thinking of creating a NIB team but not sure what breed. I'd imagine I need to buy a lot of one breed of foundations which I have a small collection of some breeds, but would need quite a few more
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By Storms Ransome, 19th April 2018 23:43:20


Would you do old 350? or RG?
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By TheHobbyBarn, 20th April 2018 00:58:55
I'd like to do 350s because I just enjoy original foundations because its kind of like some nostalgia of the old days and a bit more of a challenge. But, it'd be easier to find rolling gains foundations. I'm 50/50 but, If I could find someone to join me and they had a preference I'd be fine with anything as long as we have a good time! I'm looking to shape my game more beyond just logging in a couple times a day to play the challenges and care for divines. I've begun getting rid of a lot of my horses and BMIs I dont use to build up equus to buy more foundations.

I just really need to decide what breed to focus on and if I should do 350s or RG.


Any opinions on what to do or anyone who already breeds and would like to help me shape a small team?
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By Storms Ransome, 20th April 2018 02:00:04
I hear ya there. I am planning on getting my teams off the ground but neither are NIB. Maybe pick a breed that isn't popular in here? Or pick a breed that kind of had an "over release" like the Haflinger. Even if I can't officially be part of a team, I'd still help ya out if you wanted.

Can you have more than one affix? Maybe you could do an original GP affix and a RG affix so you wouldn't have to decide?
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By Retired breeder, 20th April 2018 23:34:49
I have a RG Kerry bog I would sell if you choose that breed I have never touched it so you can do as you wish. I agree though I I like the 350 gp horses.
By TheHobbyBarn, 21st April 2018 15:02:51
I was thinking Haflingers because I have quite a few or even waiting for a new breed and buying up a bunch of them.
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By Storms Ransome, 21st April 2018 16:36:07
Well if you decide to go with Haflingers, you can have mine. I don’t know why I think I should take on more projects when all I do is focus on Appies default smiley (lol)
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By TheHobbyBarn, 22nd April 2018 01:49:38
How do you all manage to BULP foundations? I'm mostly worried about having enough AP. I've tried AP farming but boarding horses takes forever so I've kind of given up on that. default smiley :s
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By Asfridur, 22nd April 2018 07:11:14
@TheHobbyBarn if you want to BLUP the old GP's to 100% you need fillers. There is no going around it. The GP of most of the horses here now, is simply too high. So you'll get stomped.

The Novice recently created a chat room for us. Bless you default smiley :)

You need to use Discord to reach us. (Or you can just log on using a browser if your not comfortable with installing the client).
Go to: https://discord.gg/JWH5xpK

We help each other there (when we can) with filling, so you can get your wins.
It's also a place to chat...
It's fairly new so we're still winging it

As to AP's there is no going around it you need plenty horses boarded to get a constant flow.
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