[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 18th May 2018 18:34:44
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Just waiting till one of my mares hopefully foals a 2nd gen NIB colt so i can get into my 3rd gen!

all my mares want to have fillys apparently default smiley (lol)
By Retired breeder, 18th May 2018 22:07:00
Your welcome!
By force, 20th May 2018 14:30:00
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Rinako
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Welsh
Current GP: 2370.72
Link to the Horse's Page: x

and the twin:

Horse's Name: Maya
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Welsh
Current GP: 2370.72
Link to the Horse's Page: x
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By force, 20th May 2018 14:30:51
^ bred with the new foundies !
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By Retired breeder, 20th May 2018 22:22:43
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Ricochette Baby!
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Quarter Horse
Current GP: 3104.63
Link to the Horse's Page: Link
By Rattler Winter, 21st May 2018 12:55:16
https://www.howrse.com/elevage/competition/fiche?type=cross&id=405863

I need this comp to run asap to get 1 E for the event. Using my foundie made, can anyone help?
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By Rattler Winter, 21st May 2018 12:59:33
It went through with about 20 seconds left on the objective! Talk about a tense start to the day! Thank you to whoever put that last horse in default smiley :)
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By Adivinanza, 22nd May 2018 20:53:54
NIBlings,
I am interested if there are any NIBers who have applied to be an ambassador. It is taking awhile to go through the lists and see if there are any recognizable names to look into.
If you are a NIBer/supporter and an ambassador applicant, I would greatly appreciate a note in a thread I started in my --EC forum-- (as that looks like an acceptable place such things can be discussed).


Also, to make this post more directly NIBby... I am about to give up my GV NIB project because I can't figure out a good method to get them wins. Anyone have GV skillz? Although, it might help if I woke more than two up per day... default smiley :s
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By ⊹⊱ℬℓööღεʀʂ⊰⊹, 24th May 2018 18:50:36
Just a few thoughts. I haven't entered a NIB entry for my Paint horses yet because I wanted to have a enough Foundies to generate a large pool of NIBs (And that costs a good amount of equus) and I also want them to be fully blupped before breeding. That's also hard with the original 350 GP's.

Still, I'm getting close now. I would like to have a few more 350 GP's but that's gotta wait til I generate more equus.

However, I could afford to buy a few first generation (original GP) NIB paints. Anyone else breeding NIB Paints?
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By Asfridur, 26th May 2018 17:46:53
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@Bloomers there are 3 other players:
natzuki, October Lilac, sfc0397


I'm really doing snail speed on my Shagya.
But I've managed to BLUP and breed some Drums. Still no way near having a mate for the only 5th gen I have. But I'm working on it default smiley ^)
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By Retired breeder, 29th May 2018 23:51:59
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Hello All,
I prefer to breed as close to NIB as possible. I will work with any horse that is 3 generations or more out of any line/inbreeding. I know we cannot advertise and all, but If any of you would be willing to send me a message I would appreciate it. I am looking for coverings or foals to buy. I am just trying to find some people to connect with. Hope this doesn't break any rules. Look forward to hearing from some of you.
Alyssa
By Yankee Lady, 3rd June 2018 00:50:15
I am asking for NIB breeders' opinion on something close to my heart.

Back in 2010 I started, with the help of many other NIB breeders, to develop an organization called TESF (The Epona Stud Farm). This farm provides/provided foundation stallions (only the older breeds, newer breeds in last few years not included) that are fully BLUPed and skilled as well as having 321.20 GP for the most part.

No stallion that has ever bred a mare has been, or will be sold. If interested in more information on this program please see "What is TESF?" in my EC's forum.

Just trying to see if players would be interested in my bringing the program back? All coverings are at minimum cost. I have been gone most of the last few years due to ill health which is now a thing in the past (hopefully). I was one of the original NIB breeders although I no longer do much breeding of any kind.

Please ever leave comments here on this forum or send me a personal message about your opinion. Thanks. Yankee Lady
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By suebee104, 3rd June 2018 15:14:40
Question: Are "Foundies " or their offspring the first generation?
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By October Lilac, 3rd June 2018 18:17:56
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Usually the offspring of foundies are considered first generation, and foundies are just called foundies or generation 0. It's done that way because if you want to calculate how many foundies it will take to get to a generation, lets say gen 8, you can do 2^8 and it'll get you your answer.
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By joy22_22, 4th June 2018 00:31:16
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: 9* M 565.03/175.78
Horse's Breed: Gypsy Vanner (Original 350 GP)
Current GP: 565.03
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=56288928
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By Storms Ransome, 5th June 2018 22:55:30


If I hadn't already used the foundies you have for my program, I totally would.
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By Retired breeder, 12th June 2018 15:49:12
Hello all, I'm going to be breeding NIB Gypsy Vanner's.

I only have four at the min, so still looking for foundies.
By Retired breeder, 12th June 2018 19:32:40
Welcome to the NIB community!

I just sold my GV foundy. default smiley :p Sorry I couldn't help!
By Retired breeder, 12th June 2018 19:57:11
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Thank you Magdie, that's ok I just found I nice pair of foundation foals both only a few hours old and less then 20000 which I thought was good.
By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 13th June 2018 03:32:53


Hello!! TheHobbyBarn reserved some for you, and I will, too.
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By MountainLake, 13th June 2018 03:36:19
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Wishing I didn’t geld my foundie QH � at least I still have a mare, but I’m having a harder time getting her 100 BLUP
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By MountainLake, 13th June 2018 03:56:52
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However, I did get my hands on a 350 gp original foundie QH, 100 BLUP

More of a collection horse right now, so I’m happy!
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By Retired breeder, 13th June 2018 12:18:00
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Oh! Wow, thank you so much TheHobbyBarn and Flicker!
By Asfridur, 14th June 2018 17:43:31
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Welcome on board Eden Rose!!

@joy22_22 oh my nice one!! Have you decided to start breeding them again?

@MountainLakeQH, if you do decide to pick up NIB'ing more seriously you'll know where to look default smiley :)


2 super nice people have decided to send several Shagya my way. I'm over the moon happy. Loads and of huggles their way!!
Struggling with another back surgery so I haven't been very active lately. Slowly getting better day by day, so hopefully I'll be possible to be more like my active self soon. Getting very impatient when I look at all the beautiful pixels default smiley (l)

Miss talking to you guys on our Discord channel. Hope it's still alive and kicking.
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By nlriver, 18th June 2018 00:01:47
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Wow I know that I haven't been in here in ages, but.... wow things have moved on. I lost a lot of interest when they changed to the new foundation system and then got distracted by unis, divines and an inbred line of drafts.

Wait a moment does my girl still hold the NIB Morgan record? Even after what... er... 6 years apparently. Yes I am going to go and hide in shame over here in a corner. I have still been collecting foundies left, right and centre but... oh I feel such shame that it's been this long since I properly NIB'ed.

And 13 stars for NIB Russians?! That is amazing! I must find this horse and shower it with apples!

I'm about to start a mini NIB program with my Russians. I won't get that far as I only have 24 of them but it will be a nice little project once I figure out how to fix the affix problem for them. I cannot get this to show up as I want it to but that may be because it is 1am and I cannot for the life of me remember how to code it.

Anyways I shall check in later, and do a little bit of catching up (last time I was in here there was definitely not 1000 pages... I am quite sure of this)

Nice to see some familiar faces in here at least.
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