[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Storms Ransome, 20th December 2017 04:36:27
What's up guys? What's new? I'm out of school for the semester so I'm going to be dabbling with some of my projects over break. Who's new to NIBing since I've disappeared? I'm so out of touch with all the new folks.

Storm
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By Storms Ransome, 20th December 2017 04:38:37
Who all has what breed for their projects?
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By RowanGreen, 21st December 2017 15:21:57
Hey, I'm quite new on here, so still have access to Gia foals for a couple of weeks. Which would be the best breeds to get do you think? I am interested in keeping things NIB as much as possible...
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By Retired breeder, 21st December 2017 23:57:43

Welcome back!

I am new to NIBing. I am currently working on QHs, but I have to horses to start Q Ponies, Paints, Hackneys, and TW Unis.
By scaleys, 31st December 2017 00:38:06
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Does anyone have any 350 Newfoundland Ponies they'd be willing to sell? I know I instinctively pick up foundies even for breeds I'm not working on, so I figured maybe you all would as well.
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By keepsake, 31st December 2017 08:21:35
Wow...anything but lol

The next 350 I blup is a Welsh. I have between 28 finished Foundies, but no Newfies.

For finished pairs I've got TB, Haffy (2), Lipizzan, Icelandic, KWPN, and QH which I haven't bred yet. I'll do that next week if I'm reminded lol
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 31st December 2017 08:25:21


Yeaaahhh, like keepsake, I've got anything but.

Finished at least five blups thanks to a few friends these past few weeks.
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By AcadiAnne, 2nd January 2018 19:55:53
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I haven't done any NIB breeding (or played the game at all, for that matter) for almost four years. I crossed a pair of my 351.2 Friesian unis and a 448.04 GP uni boy was born. Wow, things have changed! default smiley xd

Does anyone have any tips on getting wins on foundies? My poor little Freisians (and a handful of other breeds) can't get a win no matter what I've tried. I've tried the usual bonus pack, posiden pack, golden apples, medusa's blood (but I can't afford to do all that for every single one of them, especially when it doesn't seem to help), and sorted for the lowest difficulty, under 20 wins, trying all of the different types of competitions, and still nada.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 2nd January 2018 22:10:47
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You'll need to find someone to fill for you or let you use their filler horses. I think several of us here are willing to fill for you. Maybe that could be something we add to our list @Asfridur??
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By AcadiAnne, 3rd January 2018 02:39:04
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Oh, fiddlesticks. I’m not on enough at reliable enough times to bother anyone for fillers. I did a headcount, and I have 14 pairs with 100 BLUP, and a handful just missing a few comps. Obviously, 16 pairs at 100 BLUP would be better, but I’ll start with what I have and see how far I get before I bother y’all for fillers. Thank you for the offer, though!
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By AcadiAnne, 3rd January 2018 03:53:39
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Oh, and if anyone has any winged foundy (Maze?) Percheron (2280+ GP, -0- skills) BLUP’ing tips, I’m all ears! I’ve been living on Friesian uni island (with frequent forays into Arabian-uni-land and occasional trips to other-uni-breeds-peninsulas) for so long I almost don’t even know what to do with a breed that doesn’t train dressage. My real horse is a Percheron cross (the one in my avatar), so I’m really motivated to NIB this breed, but they have sadly turned out to be way harder for me to BLUP than my nearly similar GP, current market Friesian unis. Am I missing something, or have Howrse’s current game mechanics nuked every foundy?
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 4th January 2018 03:48:59
@everyone, there are a ton of 350 foundations in the sales for 40k and 100k
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 4th January 2018 03:51:36
Looks like they're mostly nQuarters, Paints, Thoroughbreds, Arabians, Appaloosas, and Hanoverians.
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By Asfridur, 4th January 2018 17:47:56
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Happy New Year all!
Haven't been very active as of late. Still plotting along slowly though. Not going to give up on my babies default smiley ^)


Good idea ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ


oh heck there goes my savings again default smiley xd
Thanks for telling us!


Close to all are nuked I'm afraid. It's now crazy hard to get wins on the old GP's. You need people to fill if you want 100% BLUP.
Slightly easier with the rolling gains - if your patient. The RG's mostly do not need fillers on all entries besides your own BLUP...yet.
Lovely horse you have there Carrie-Anne default smiley (l)

Would you like us to add some of your breeds to our NIB list?

Regarding the NIB breeders I've got the following. And have posted names on players that are willing to fill - please let me know if changes are needed for the list, and willing to fill

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NIB LIST SORTED BY PLAYER

Axel'sMommy - has foundie GA thread
https://www.howrse.com/centre/forum/sujet?id=907976&sujet=1073924901

Comatose – has NIB registry as well as a wanted thread
https://www.howrse.com/joueur/fiche/?id=29511752

Willing to fill – PM for help:
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Asfridur
keepsake
Comatose



abitude
- Drums
- Lippizaner
- Welsh
- Shire

Asfridur
- Canadian
- Drums
- Russian Don (uni) (project done, out of old GP foundies)
- Shagya
- Trakhener (uni)

Adivinanza
- Standardbred

Axel'sMommy
- Hanoverian (reg + uni)

Bloomers
- Paints (old GP and rolling gain)

boywithhorse
- Brumby

Comatose
- Akhal Teke
- Gypsy Vanner (reg + unis)
- Knabstrub
- Marwari (reg + unis)
- Mustang (reg + unis)
- Nokota
- Shetland (reg + unis)
- Trakhener

dark_angel2788
- Friesians
- Irish Hunters
- Marwaris
- Arabs
- PSH

Driananium
- Arabian (going slow)

eriathwen
- Curly
- Hackney

FancySchmancy
- Hanoverian

freedomreins
- Hanoverians

HYDEIST
- Connemara
- Peruvian Paso (reg + uni)

lbenedict15
- Holstein

Jumperanna
- Quarter Horse

kittencat123
- Canadian

kooldogz7
- Curly
- Gypsy Vanner
- Nokota

lanikot
- Marwari

Magdie
- Quarter horse

magictouch85
- Lusitano

MareWithAMission
- Drums

Misabel
- TB

msuequestrian
- Haflinger

MoonRider1691
- Morgan (rolling gain)

naztuki
- Paints

Northener
- Drums
- Standardbreds

Orca98
- Drums

Pearl Onyx
- Shetland

Poindextra
- Shire

sfc0397
- Appys
- Paints
- Quarter Horses

Sootybelle
- KWPN
- Trakhener

spotngold24
- Drums

Storms Ransome
- Appys
- Criollo

Sylevar Falcori
- Arabian
- Connemara

tallynen
- PSH

TheSeason1
- Haflinger

Zel
- Knabstrup
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By Retired breeder, 5th January 2018 02:41:51
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I've just started NIBing, can some one recommend one NIB stallion?
By AcadiAnne, 5th January 2018 05:00:49


What breed and species are you NIB’ing? I’ve got few breeds of 100 BLUP 351.20 GP unicorn stallions that aren’t leaving my hands until Howrse closes their doors for good, so I can guarantee my stallions are safe (according to current Howrse rules, my account can never be deleted because I did buy passes in the (distant) past, which is why my account was still here after almost 4 years of inactivity)..
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By AcadiAnne, 5th January 2018 05:20:01
@ Asfridur Thank you for the real horse compliment! It is not as easy as this game makes it seems to raise and train a young horse that outweighs one by a 1,000+ lbs (as I’m very certain many here could attest). I don’t have anything to report yet; I’ve only had one successful Friesian uni colt, and he isn’t above the current NIB Friesian GP on record (unless unis are a separate category?).
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By Asfridur, 5th January 2018 15:23:27
@Carrie-Anne tell me about it!
Used to work RL Vanners. Sweet sweet horses when trained correctly. If not their like big bullies and I do mean big default smiley (lol)

Howrse wise if you plan to have a NIB Fry line I can put your name on our list if you like?
GP don't really matter any more. The rolling gain has the GP going all over the place.
And no we do not have separate categories I'm afraid.

Grabbed a few old GP Canadians from sales. Going to go see if there are more that do not cost a million or more
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By Azhure, 8th January 2018 01:29:23
Literally have so many NIB horses most are 2nd gen or more and I so want to cull some but don't want to sell them. What to do?
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By BRM, 9th January 2018 22:39:35


I've got Morgans, both 350 and Rolling GP.
And I'm slowly working on getting a 350 all breed cross just because.
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By Retired breeder, 9th January 2018 22:51:19
I have a new generation Connemara foundation stallion Rocky. I'm not advertising but which one do you think is best to do: blup and sell him or blup and offer coverings? I don't plan on doing NIB breeding so I was just wondering what you think.
By Retired breeder, 10th January 2018 20:36:34
Well, if you do decide to sell him, I might buy him from you so my foundy conne female can be covered.
By Retired breeder, 10th January 2018 21:13:08
@Madgie, I can offer you a covering for 500 equus once I've blupped him if you only need to cover one mare.
By Retired breeder, 11th January 2018 00:07:12
Yes, it's only one. I have made alot of equus just giving public coverings.
By Retired breeder, 12th January 2018 18:13:14
Does anyone have a current list of who breeds what breed of horse/pony? I lost my list somehow. default smiley (o)

TIA
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