[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 21st February 2018 06:38:58
Thx WithLoveBlondie
By stryker777337, 21st February 2018 16:12:39
Do people ever do NIB trades to keep bloodlines open?
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By Asfridur, 21st February 2018 16:38:11
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I believe the only one who NIB's TB's at this point is Misabel. But I do not know if she offers covers.


Honestly I do not know. Most NIB'er prefer to keep their own stock.
Anyone???

But you could ask either Driananium, dark_angel2788 or Sylevar Falcori if they want to part or breed for NIB's for you.
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By stryker777337, 21st February 2018 22:30:37
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@Asfridur Thanks I'll check and see if anyone wants to trade with me. default smiley :)
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By ɪsᴀʙᴇᴀᴜ oғ ᴀɴᴊoᴜ, 22nd February 2018 00:06:11
If I had, say, 4 Connemara foundy pairs (we'll call them 1+2, 3+4, 5+6, and 7+8) and I bred
1+2 to get foal #1,
3+4 to get foal #2,
5+6 to get foal #3, and
7+8 to get foal #4,
then bred #1 foal to #2 foal to get x# foal,
and #3 foal to #4 foal to get y# foal,
THEN bred x and y together to get the final Project Accomplished, would that still be non inbreeding (NIB) acceptable?
Thanks!
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By AVH Lover, 22nd February 2018 17:41:38
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Yes, of course it would be. That is what most people who NIB do.
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By ɪsᴀʙᴇᴀᴜ oғ ᴀɴᴊoᴜ, 22nd February 2018 22:39:00
Ah thanks! I'm very, very new to the concept of NIBing, and wanted to be sure I understood the idea. Anything a newbie to this lovely style of breeding should know?
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By Retired breeder, 23rd February 2018 02:49:46
Hey, I'm giving up my NIB colt (I'll admit that I haven't been on Howrse long but...)
By esj, 23rd February 2018 23:16:32
default smiley (y)

NIBing is so addictive. I don't have any horses IRL, so this is as close as I'll get to owning a horse.

I'm breeding Hanoverians, at least for now, and I'm very interested in breeding my mares with other NIB Hanos later..But how can I know for sure which stallions are NIB?

default smiley :-))
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By shamrock726, 24th February 2018 22:14:11
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@Asfridur I have a long-standing NIB stud farm side project, so I also offer covers to other players default smiley :)
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By shamrock726, 24th February 2018 22:17:10
In other news.... LOOKIE LOOKIE!!



1 generation, 2 original foundies (prior to update) and 1 SHOCKED SHAMROCK! I now have a conundrum of how to label my starred NIB horses default smiley :-)) hmmm.... *goes off to think*
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By Asfridur, 25th February 2018 11:35:24
Welcome on board esj default smiley :)

Only way to know your using a NIB is to trace all the ancestors, and make sure the same horse is only used once. If it is you have an inbred horse, and not a NIB.
Tracing ancestors becomes tricky if you use public covers, and close to impossible if your using higher end covers.

So basically:
- There is no inbreeding (the same horses are only listed once)

- None of the ancestors have been used as passhorses - if they have, you cannot trace all the horses uses, and thus have no proof the horse is NIB.

- A player has deleted their account, and you cannot trace the ancestors.

The above means that most NIB'ers use their own stock only.
How ever some NIB'er do offer covers.


... I had to grab some more Shagya in sales. I'm a lost cause default smiley (lol)
I've started working on some second gens, even though it was my intention to finish working all my foundies first. But I was beginning to feel like I was going nowhere, so decided to move unto the first and second gens, while slowly working more foundies on the side.
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By Asfridur, 25th February 2018 11:36:06
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@shamrock726 sorry forgot about that fact.

Nice little crossling you have there default smiley (y)default smiley (y)
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By Misabel, 25th February 2018 16:53:22
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I don't mind giving out covers, as long as they're 2nd-generation or lower. I have a bazillion BLUPed foundie stallions that I've already used and retired, just hanging around and twiddling their digital hooves.

BTW Asfridur, you may want to check your reserved sales.

Also realized that I never posted this dude:
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: FirstWeTakeManhattan
Horse's Breed: Thoroughbred
Current GP: 712.40 (19*)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54609362
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By Asfridur, 25th February 2018 19:11:43
OMG thank you Misabel!!! default smiley (l)
That's super generous
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By Moon Unicorn345, 28th February 2018 06:35:39
Asfridur, my mare Amara is ready for the cover default smiley ;)
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By Asfridur, 28th February 2018 17:47:41
@Moon Unicorn345 upped a cover for you
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By Moon Unicorn345, 1st March 2018 00:03:35
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@Asfridur Thanks heaps!
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By Asfridur, 4th March 2018 15:16:16
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Reposting

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Zeloso
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Drum Horse
Current GP: 2260.51 (169*)
Link to the Horse's Page: the horse
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By Asfridur, 4th March 2018 19:29:49
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Shadi
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Shagya
Current GP: 523.05 (5*)
Link to the Horse's Page: the foal
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By lisaofbb, 7th March 2018 04:28:14
Hello!
I have a bunch of foundation Morgans if anyone is interested. I am "going out of business" so to speak.default smiley ;)
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By kaylabug5, 7th March 2018 06:04:28
Hi guys!

I am currently thinking of getting into NIB breeding and had a few questions about it. If someone experienced would please PM me to help, that would be wonderful!

Thank you guys,
Kayla
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By kaylabug5, 9th March 2018 19:10:23
So I used a Gaia stone and now have a Shetland colt that will be a perfect starter horse for NIB. But does anyone have an older mare they would sell me? If not, I have a championship seed I will use
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By Retired breeder, 16th March 2018 05:28:52
NIBing seems so cool! I'm gonna try out a line! Does anybody know how to find Foundies on the horse sales? All I can really find are horses with disappeared parents.
By Storms Ransome, 16th March 2018 06:14:03
Vag111 and Naztuki, I believe, still have TESF going on which I can't remember what it stands for, is a breeding farm with Foundation horses at least. I'm not sure if they are still doing 1G or not.

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