[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 17:32:19
Oh no nevermind about the retired coat thing default smiley xd. You got a good price on him lol....I thought that coat was retired at some point but I was mistaken
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By nlriver, 11th January 2010 18:04:06
I paid 7k for a Morgan foal last night. Their prices are going up as well, but no where near Arabians (thank heaven for that or I wouldn't be able to cope with everything).

Tamriel's finished her current SJ comps with 3 wins, not bad, but I was hoping for a few more. Off to try and game some foals since the weather on here isn't bad at the moment, and that also depends on if I can find a decent EC to do so. Gonna try and age a few pass horses while keeping an eye on a Morgan foal in auction. Oh this should be fun.
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 18:09:43
Make a post in the EC forum default smiley (y) That's what I did.

Good luck on those wins default smiley ;)

I have taken up several collections to help fund my arabians default smiley xd but I don't go for foals in the auction as Sionn always beats me to them default smiley xd My foals were purchased as Gaia foals
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 18:12:16
I've had a bad day today, only 2 wins so far. Lets hope the rest of the comps will be more success. Oh well, something bad something good. My foundie barb stally got his 20th win yesterday evening and he is only 7 years 2 months. Still lots of riding to do but I was kinda surprised to get those wins so easily since I just entered him to comps to get skills. Wish it was that easy to all my horses to get the wins but my mares siims to be those who just don't like winning default smiley (li)
By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 18:43:03
Forest Queen - I just clicked on the link and it worked....hmmmm..gremlins?

Rowen - So funny about the arab trot-woes...I BLUP-ped my foundie Newf mare almost entirely on trots, I think.....and it's usually my first stop with everything else. default smiley *-) I have to admit to compulsively (obsessively?) checking back in many times a day when I've got a BLUP-fest going on......

I'm glad the foundie-frenzy hasn't hit the Newfs yet....perhaps I should start hoarding just in case...default smiley ;)

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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 18:45:11
Pardon the potentially-eejity question....but what does the game weather have to do with foal gaming? default smiley (o)
By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 18:50:26
Me again....

Will someone please come to the auction and beat me with a stick until I leave....

I just bid on a foundie mare....*sigh*

It's a sickness...really....default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 19:07:34
l think Paints make it impossible for everyone else to win in trotting races-- you can train through the roof in dressage and speed with them and then enter really low trotting races. That tends to be how I get my wins-- but even 20 stars can enter 20% trotting races sometimes and that's... totally unfair. I try to keep my wins to the minimal 20, but not everyone does and it's definitely a hiccup in the programming. default smiley :p

And thanks, Forest Queen. I'll just have to highlight my calendar or something to try posting him again! default smiley :)
By 1PonyLover, 11th January 2010 19:10:46
Can anyone tell me , if an ancestor changes gender does that affect the NIB statis? Maybe it would make a difference if before or after any offspring?
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 19:19:12
Foundy arabians are terrible at trot because it is where the least amount of skills are for them.

Wild it will work for you because it takes you to your horses default smiley ;). We can't see her like that because we don't own herdefault smiley :p

PonyLover that doesn't affect it IMO but I have heard a few players state they don't want bolted horses

No problem Jeteska default smiley (y)

*hits wild with a stick* I have stayed away from auctions for a week! I'm so proud default smiley :-))
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By 1PonyLover, 11th January 2010 19:25:18
IMO? not sure what that is. I wish I could stay away from the auctions. default smiley :$ I did pick up a foundation Freisian male, full games and under 2 years last night.
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 19:26:07
I my opinion? I think
By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 19:26:22
*clings to post in auction hall as FQ bludgeons mercilessly*

default smiley (lol) on the link!! Okay...if anyone wants to see...her name is Four Ponds and she's in Fingal's Cave....default smiley ;)

I am stepping away from the computer and AM NOT setting the timer on the microwave so I know when the auction is getting close to ending....truly, I"ve done that...default smiley :o

First step to recovery...

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Yay for you FQ.....auction-free for a week...you ought to be proud...default smiley (y)
By 1PonyLover, 11th January 2010 19:28:56
Sorry to keep asking so many questions but is it a good or bad idea to make foundations immortal?
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 19:33:56
Wild North: default smiley (lol) I try to avoid them as I either spend more than I can afford, or I end up getting downhearted when I get outbid ^_^
PonyLover: I don't know... For me, it doesn't make much difference I don't think - depends how fast you can get the blupped and bolded I suppose
By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 19:47:11
IMO=in my opinion default smiley ;)

Wild, for future ref just go to My profile, hit the tab the horse is in, go to the horses page (like you would view other players horses) and copy that link default smiley ;)

I am super proud for staying away for a week.....looks to auction tab.....default smiley xd oh my....

It is good and bad. Bad because you can't really get back passes spent on IM for the horse but good in the fact that it can still be around for you to foal out another foal or you can get the wins/bolding/training needed to finish BLUPing them. I just immortalized Sahara for vag111, couldn't get any wins while he was over here but tried REALLY hard default smiley xd

Hmmmmm microwave timer...never thought of that default smiley *-)....I'm usually at work when they end so it doesn't matter. I tend to bet BIG then walk away in hopes of getting it later default smiley :p....I bid on GA horses though soooooo default smiley :$
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By 1PonyLover, 11th January 2010 19:54:29
OK, one more default smiley :( the howrse I thought of making immortal are already 11 BLUP. So, I thought to put it on to have them around or if *shudders in fear* I ever leave the game I can pass them on.
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 19:57:59
Yay! Just bought another two Morgans =) Had to pay a bit more for them than I hoped, but ah well. Finally have my first 16. Going to blup them and maybe then think about more lol
By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 19:58:09
11 BLUP? I don't keep track of what BLUP horses are until they are 100 so I don't know how much training/wins/age that horse has default smiley :-x Do you have a link or the name of the horse and I will see what they look like default smiley (y). Mostly immortalizing is the players choice whether it is for sentimental reasons or to make a profit. (profit is obviously out with foundations default smiley xd)
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By 1PonyLover, 11th January 2010 20:00:42
default smiley :@ Sorry, I ment 100 BLUP.
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 20:05:12
I immortalized my first horse...just because I'm hopelessly nostalgic like that. My greenstars are because they're funding my other projects and after all the passes I put into them they need to earn their keep default smiley ;).

...as for the rest of my NIBs....I"ve decided to take it horse by horse but at this point I am inclined to 'stone the foundies.....*shrug*

Oh, and apparently feigning utter detachment works because I got that mare I bid on....*capers around room*. Yeah, I use the timer because I've got a memory like a sieve and between the kids and the dogs and the cats and...well...time slips away, doesn't it?

I wasn't going to check, really I wasn't.....but there was a pause between my vacuuming and mopping that just needed to be filled.

must.finish.housework.

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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 20:12:48
A random pause huh default smiley ;)

100 BLUP is good. How old is it? How often do you use her/her? All go into my mind when I use expensive items on them. lol

Tikki got a nyx pack placed on him because he is my pet project, Mythological Youth (Sionn owns him now) is immortalized because he was MY foundation uni (black and arabian, how I like em default smiley ;)), Chief of the Forest (my first paint stud) was immortalized but has been sold....may try to get him back at some point default smiley *-) who knows. I don't immortalize often unless I really, really like a horse. Otherwise (esp. if I can't get 100 BLUP) I breed as close to 25yrs as I can get (after all comps have been worked as much as possible) and pass the horse out *shrugs* one less horsie for the disappeared lines IMO
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 20:13:42
IT WORKS!!! default smiley (lol) sorry to yell*

good job default smiley (y)

She is absolutely lovely Wild default smiley (7) Her GP is higher than Tikki Tech's two boys default smiley :p
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 20:15:22
I make immortal the ones I am sentimentally attached to, as well - my own foundie who I used to breed my first NIB foal and first foal I ever bred (yep, I was NIB right from the start, default smiley (lol)) is immortal. I also like horses that are rare to be immortal, so 351.20 GP studs (although I haven't gotten around to doing this with my newfies yet) etc. Luckily, my new uni was already immortal. She's staying with me for good - I like rare foundations!
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