[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Rowen, 11th January 2010 01:35:56
Wow Sionnach your horse is amazing!!
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 01:37:43
Stunning addition to the NIB arabians!

*slaps back*

FQ
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By Valkyrie04, 11th January 2010 02:18:37
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Troy
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Paint
Current GP (foals without completed games do not count): 356.71
Link to the Horse's Page: http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=8404772


He has been bred and produced twins, but they have not been thru games yet. The foal I have out of the pair is here.

Horse's Name: Aesir
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Paint
Current GP (foals without completed games do not count): 358.20/110.04
Link to the Horse's Page: http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=8445381

I know the foals don't count yet. Just thought I would show his offspring. These horses were bred between myself and Angelcat467.
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By Sionnach, 11th January 2010 02:24:51
*has back slapped* Ooft, gentle there Foresty! *cricks spine*

Thank you very kindly, both of you. I've worked my socks off all week to catch up where I left off before my hiatus, and now I'm away to bed for some real sleep. *rubs eyes* Aurgh. default smiley (lol)

Sinn
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 02:32:20
turns to take a look at my foundies*

*sigh* My goal right now is to get up in uni ranks, seems my foundies are taking the back seat default smiley xd
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 02:39:06
I'm going to shoot myself default smiley (li)

Sleepless Dawn's dam, Raising Dawn, was sold at 30yrs and 2 months as a pass horse and is now disappeared default smiley (li)


*runs around like a mad woman screaming.....*
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By Rowen, 11th January 2010 02:40:59
Oh no that is terrible. The disappearing horse strikes again. I had over 100 horses and lost most of mine to disappearing horses. I wish howrse would find a way to prevent it from happening. default smiley :(
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 02:45:48
He was my top stud....359.43 GP, shutterfly.....GA.....multiple wins......*sigh*
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By Rowen, 11th January 2010 02:48:14
Yeah I had a second generation Arabian stallion with almost 360 GP before I left who lost two of his lines to the disappearing horse. That was when they told me that even if I knew what the lines were he was no longer breedable as a NIB because they can't be verified. What a waste.
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 03:38:34
Do you mean 2nd gen or 3rd gen? default smiley (lol). I do not know who all has "switched over" as it seems more and more 2nd gen horses are being called 1st and so on default smiley :$
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By Rowen, 11th January 2010 03:45:44
I think I mean third. I get myself confused now because when I talk to some people they would call it second and others call it third so now I forget what to call it hehe.
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By nlriver, 11th January 2010 03:46:18
Very true, I have some first and second gens that I've managed to buy and now I'm terrified that they're going to lose their parents. Two of the foals have dams that were pass horses, one of the sires is currently owned by Dr Zig, so I'm not too worried about that one. But some of the others would have to go through the auctions for me to buy them.

It is all very frustrating. It would be a lot better if Howrse could just grey out horses of people who've deleted their accounts, but that would be a discussion better held on the ideas forum.

*crosses fingers Tamriel gets a few wins* she has one so far, which I'm quite proud of.
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By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 03:50:24
Good luck on them wins riverdoe default smiley ;)

What breed do you do again? default smiley xd sorry, I forgot lol
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By Rowen, 11th January 2010 03:51:45
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that you get your wins. I have 10 horses competing right now and two that are close to being done. I'm hoping they will be done next week. Have to make room for the new babies to move up in the ranks

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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 03:53:02
Eeee!

Rowen and I make such awesome babies! Errr, well...breeding our arabians together, we do. -coughs-

Darryl

My first bred foal! Sorta, first time Adrian covered a mare. Rowen will hold him until I can get into private sales in about two months and two weeks. Well, this is what I'll be naming him when he comes to live with me.

NIB {Gen2}

I need some equus...so he's for sale. Don't want to advertise that but I just wanted to show off Adrian's lovely babies! I'll need to ask Rowen for another covering from Pomnuria' Baen!, I want a mouse grey to keep. Technically my first bred foal because I bolted Adrian and he'll stay a mare until I can get another bolt, but at the moment, GA is most important on my must have list.

Sondra

My third foal and first filly! She's so cute and...wow! I can't wait to see the foals Adrian throws when he's actually gotten first place in twenty shows! I'm hoping now as a pegasus, he'll be able to do better than second place.

I think if I can manage to snag and immortalize another foundation arabian, I'll do really good with starting my own line.
By nlriver, 11th January 2010 03:53:47
I breed Morgans XD Always looking for more foundations, by the way, despite the fact I have over 90 waiting on games. default smiley (lol)

Thanks!
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By Rowen, 11th January 2010 04:13:56
I am up to 30 Foundation mares and 25 foundation stallions so I'm slowly getting there. My hopes are to have 75 of each so that I will have a large assortment of babies to breed together. We'll see how far I get before I will have to find more foundations to add to the mix.
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 04:23:58
Can anyone see if my shetland pony Prince Edmund would be a good canadate for this i have two Aussie Golden Prize and GoldenDreams Fern that are not in bred.So if my Shettland Prince Edmund is not inbred then i will be able to breed those ponys and be in here.Please some one take a look at him thank you.
By Rowen, 11th January 2010 04:29:09
Sorry he is inbred he has inbreeding on his fathers side. I didn't go any further than that though but he definitely wouldn't be a candidate for NIB
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 04:33:23
Ok thanks i wish i could find a none inbred shetland that is imorrtal and palomino color for my princess Lilly
By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 04:36:22
Summer I think I have a foundie shetland, probably not with all those things but I do have on in my other horses tab.

Rowen I have Salsa 1.18 up, I sent him to Chapman for his games (small miscalculation involved) so have placed him in sales. Will be thinking about selling is paired mate (351.2 GP) but not entirely sure yet.

PM me either/both of you if interested default smiley ;)

(only posting this because horses wanted were asked openly default smiley ;))

FQ
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 05:18:51
Does anyone know of a Welsh pony breeder? I'd like a foundation mare to pair with Endevor.

For really young foundations, like either after games or before, how much should I expect to pay for an arabian or welsh?

I'd also like to know, who else besides Rowen could I poke for future NIB Arabian breedings?
By Forest Queen, 11th January 2010 05:34:23
Arabians....a TON! lol....sold one of my recent untouched foals for 65k (this is including the average equus price of the items sent in part trade)

I have no idea on welsh....I believe I have some of those but not sure if they are untouched, messed with foals or screwed up adults default smiley xd.....so many breeds of foundies with nothing to do in my other horses tab...I forget what I have sometimes.

I do SoulReaper. I do custom foals and Tikki Tech still has available outside coverings for 100 BLUP NIB mares default smiley (y). PM if you are interested. They are 500e for coverings default smiley (y)

I also have another stud that is 100 BLUP for 200e as his skills are nice but meh no where near the caliber of Tikki default smiley :p
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2010 05:38:12
Darn, I forgot to try and re-submit Skylight -again- this week. x.o I'm still not sure why he wasn't posted as top for Paints when I did three weeks ago, but it's not because he's inbred...
By bluetempest, 11th January 2010 05:42:03
For all breeders looking for an EC. I think I may have found one. The director of Parkworth Estate said I could board my Chinco mare there. It pays 22e. Is info like this allowed if it may help others?
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