[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 02:52:32
Ah I didn't think of that. That's probably it. Well I put them in the auctions so we'll see if there are any Barb breeders looking for babies. I don' t breed them but when the World Tours was going on I thought about starting to breed them so I got two plus the one from the contest. Now I can't seem to find them good homes.
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 02:58:06
Two more wins is all I need and then I've Blupped one of my foundation mares!!!

Only 45 or is it 46 to go?

Lol
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By Misabel, 10th January 2010 03:23:45
Alycat, I have a foundation TB stallion if you're still looking. default smiley :)

Rowen: you posted earlier about it being bad to send dead horses to heaven. Do their pedigrees disappear eventually?
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By bluetempest, 10th January 2010 03:24:03
Lil Miracle 351.2 has earned her name. I finally got her wins now only to finish the rest of the BLUP training. I got lucky when I found her as an untouched foal in the sales. Anyone want to offer coverings please pm. Arabian breeders please check out my EC forum.
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 03:36:57
Misabel,

As of yet they don't but if someone quits the game all the horses they have in their heaven will disappear when their game page does.

I do not know if there are any plans to delete the horses in peoples heavens but I figure better safe than sorry and I stop aging my horses unless I am working with them and training them or breeding them. My next step is to try and make all my 100 Blup breeding stock immortal so that I don't have to worry about them dying.
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 03:38:39
bluetempest,

She is adorable! You definitely lucked out there are very few untouched foundation foals in the sales these days and those that are cost tons.

default smiley :d
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By Misabel, 10th January 2010 03:45:18
Yikes, that's a lot of immortality! default smiley (lol) I've been thinking my 1st gens are safe if the parents are dead or in the Haven. Now you've got be worried. default smiley ;)

Of course, not all my first gens' parents are....I was trying to take screen-caps of their pedigrees earlier (figured I could post them in my EC forum, to keep a sort of personal studbook), and failing miserably. Just couldn't get the whole thing on one page!
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By bluetempest, 10th January 2010 03:48:13
I bought her a long time ago and just now got to training her. I was surprised actually won the bid on her. I avoid the auctions like the plague I hate losing. One time I bid on a foundation with a GP over 351, lose and find out the new owner killed her. default smiley :( I so happy at how she is turning out *dances* it gives me hope for my other troublesome horses. default smiley :-))
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By Retired breeder, 10th January 2010 03:50:09
Hey guys just wanted to get your opinions on my first horse his GP isn't great but I've trained him for forever and am still every time I get a POC^^

Here he is what do you think?
http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=2785152

Is he a good stud?
By Retired breeder, 10th January 2010 03:54:20
OUR CORNER!default smiley :-))
By Rowen, 10th January 2010 03:56:51
I think they are okay as long as they are in your horse heaven since you have no intentions of deleting your game anytime soon.

I am not sure about safe haven but I have had other players tell me that they would breed with horses who's parents had been sent to safe haven or were dead. So I have tried hard not to send my breeding stock to heaven once they get to the elite barn.

Necolassa,

Even though your studs GP isn't that high he has amazing amounts of skill for a foundation horse. If I were breeding thoroughbreds I would definitely consider him for a breeding or for a breeding program.
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By Retired breeder, 10th January 2010 04:09:29
Thank you Rowen, I'm glad he's worth consideration because he's my very first horse and I love him to death XD
By Forest Queen, 10th January 2010 04:10:07
bluetempest, outstanding job on your 20 wins at 8yrs! default smiley (y)

To those of you in need I offer training here and there default smiley ;)

Any foundie arabians for me to snag up?
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By Emberrogue, 10th January 2010 04:22:04
Rivenwood, please contact me again or accept the friends request- at least temporarily. default smiley ;)
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By Retired breeder, 10th January 2010 04:23:36
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Adrian
Horse's Breed: Arabian
Current GP: 350.48
Link to the Horse's Page: Adrian

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Endevor
Horse's Breed: Welsh
Current GP: 350.14
Link to the Horse's Page: Endevor

The second guy I bought from the auctions, so I'll lay off aging him if anyone wants a studding. I got him for a pass horse, but I may just try to get a philosopher's stone on him and work on his skills more.

Both are foundation and the rest are inbred or too many deleted horses in their history to tell.

I'd like a nice mare to breed Adrian with, preferably another foundation? My roommate isn't as lucky as I am with HOPS so he hasn't gotten a nyx pack yet for his foundation arabian and she's not done training, he's not breeding her till all her skills are bolded.
By Rowen, 10th January 2010 04:26:08
SoulReaper take a look in my elite barn I have a few 100 BLUP foundation mares in there you could breed your stud to and then I could sell you the baby once it's born.
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By Retired breeder, 10th January 2010 04:33:28
Can I breed with Rainstorm, please? Thank you very much Rowen.
By Forest Queen, 10th January 2010 05:16:52
SoulReaper I have several 100 BLUP mares that do custom foals as well. May even let one or two of them go as they are just collecting dust default smiley xd

http://www.howrse.com/marche/enchereVoir?id=4334888&requete=vente%3Dde

morgan foundation in auctions. *please note* this is not my horse for sale just trying to point morgan breeders towards her.

Her GP is low and the coat on her is slightly rare (GA) so she might cost a lot as collectors will be after her. *you have been warned* default smiley (lol)
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 05:35:36
Forest Queen

What do you mean by custom foals you have me curious?
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By Forest Queen, 10th January 2010 06:03:56
You pick a stallion and mare (mare of mine a stallion of your choice) and I will make a foal from the cross. Cost depends on mare, stud covering and if there is a WOY/aging points/FW/AT involved. I have already PM'd you tonight Rowen, check your inbox default smiley ;)
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 06:11:39
I just answered you, my inbox has been hopping tonight so it took me a minute. Plus I had to play with my new mare hehe.

That sounds a lot like what I do but I had not heard it called making custom foals before. I like that term.
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By Forest Queen, 10th January 2010 06:13:50
default smiley (lol) I have called them custom foals since the beginning of my game default smiley (lol). Remember a time when Legacy was actually Legacy and had that website up default smiley (y)
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 06:14:53
Yes and then the time flew away. So many things have changed since then.
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By Forest Queen, 10th January 2010 06:15:55
Indeed....IC breeds newfies default smiley (lol). I was shocked when I saw that....I took quite a long break though default smiley *-)

I have PMd back default smiley ;)
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By Rowen, 10th January 2010 06:19:21
Yeah me too I was finding trying to train my RL little bundle of joy and find time to play was just not working well. I came back and everything was so different. That's what I get for leaving for so long.
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