[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 22:59:33
I have some green stars and I do my best to avoid foundations in comps

So if you see one of my horses beating your horse I have either not realiced it is NIB horse, thought that it wont win anyway (like some greenstar already entered against them) or its my own NIB so its fair play default smiley :p

Only exption in my "dont go against foundations with greenstars" rule is when I see newbie placing untrained starterhorse to comps - in that case I dont care... evil me
By Rowen, 6th January 2010 23:22:35
Yeah I might just resort to that if she keeps being such a problem child hehe

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By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 23:24:22
I will be needing a foundation SH to pair my future filly (A newbie's holding till they can get PS) so either a foal under 6 months or an adult with 351+GP. Thanks! IC, I know a player who sells Gaia Foals, I'll pm you the name.
By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 23:30:35
*ears perk up* Gaia foals?

sh?
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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 23:54:53
*sits next to Forest Queen and listens carefully*

Yeah I was confused about the SH too not sure what that stands for but was afraid to look dumb by asking lol

:P

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By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 02:00:25
Gaia Foals are you can choose a breed of horse or pony the sex and coat.So basicly it is like when you started your game it.default smiley :-))
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 02:03:23
i have a mare made from a Gaia Foal her name is Mary she is a NIB and at breeding age so if anyone hase a NIB QH pm me!!!!
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 03:27:01
Thanks Rowen ^^ *listens to this forum now*

Anyone know any well known New World Howrse NIB breeding groups? NIB doesn't sound easy so might as well help them out if possible since I won't be able to keep up for sure >.<

-TinaH default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 03:47:47
wat does the gaia an wat ever the boy is wen u start ur game mean an were did they come from srry about the off topic stuff
By Yankee Lady, 7th January 2010 05:53:58
Rowen and others,
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SH = Safe Haven
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By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 06:12:43
In this case Pintar ment Spanish Horse with that SH. At least thats how I understood it default smiley :p
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 06:44:26
tigrelily has set up room in her forum for players searching for other players, by breed, can post. Should be easier to find players when more people post their breeds.
By foxy3000123, 7th January 2010 07:41:38
By Forest Queen, on 6 january 2010 21:37:47 (Signal an abuse)

"I just personally took a look at the GP (took the mare owners word on him) of the colt by Tikki.....it SHOULD finish at 357.07!!!! *does a little dance*"

Sorry, I'd started games with him when you looked. default smiley :d When he was born his GP was 355.53. default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 08:27:57
*just realizes a "fast" way for high GP*

Has anyone tried to groom and water their foals then just play with them while using a whole bunch of Black Orchids? o.O
By rocket_girl, 7th January 2010 08:29:06
I think Pintar meant PSH default smiley (lol)
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By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 09:28:45
TinaH, that's just waste of passes for BO's - the gain is fixed at a max on 1.2 GP points so although you could get games over and done with that way it would be needlessly costly as proper games will get you to the same GP. The only time I use BOs in games is when I'm repairing a foal part-way through gaming that has been gamed incorrectly and needs more hours of play.
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 10:01:07
I'm so excited! Two of my foundy Friesian unicorn stallions are 2 wins away to complete their 20 competitions! I still need to finish up on their training (They are 9yr & 10mos old right now) but who cares! Their competitons are nearly completed, woo-hoo!
They are also loaded with BM items, so I can't say I didn't cheat. In any case, it's nice to have them almost done.

Had to share default smiley :-))default smiley (y)
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 10:32:33
Ugh. I'm trying to convince myself that I really SHOULD keep working my horses and not spend all my free time in the forumdefault smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 16:40:45
Yay! My first bred NiB!

Bashir

I had to show him off, he's so darned cute!
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 16:48:14
Congrats Annawe =)
By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 19:20:34
Still Looking for more New NIBers if you happen to know of anyone to join the cause of NIBers to be on the list..please look me up and let me know..more and more is getting updated and more and more people are joining...Have fun out there and Happy Howrsing..
By Forest Queen, 7th January 2010 19:29:32
Annawe lovely colt default smiley (y) let me know when he is all done default smiley ;) and if you ever need anything let me know as I have a surplus of arabians default smiley xd lol

starting right yipee!!! may be interested in putting her name down for available studs. She collects immortal 300+ skilled foundations of any breed so I am sure she has a few 100 BLUPers in there default smiley (y)
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By Retired breeder, 7th January 2010 19:30:55
My foundation Canadian mare, Black Widow, just gave birth to twin fillies! They have 355.05/109.18 and I'm very excited and pleased.
By Rowen, 8th January 2010 00:18:17
I just had a filly out of two foundation Arab horses with lower skills

The cool thing is her GP at birth is 355.63 with IBS of 73.62!!!

I am so excited by this as of now she is my highest GP horse so far.

Dad had gp of 350.84

Mom had GP of 350.40

So I have to agree with the players that say that it is totally random what you get for GP. I think it might be more of a range and you get something in between the range. I do know that if you breed horses with lower BLUP it does lower the GP so that's just another plug for why you should fully BLUP before breeding.
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