[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 19:37:54
Remember guys, this isn't the place for ads unless somebody specifically posts they want something, and you have what they are looking for. Please don't post ads for your horses, even ungamed foundie foals, or stallions for breeding unless somebody inquires after them. Thank you default smiley :)
By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 19:47:23
Wasn't aware stallions couldn't be advertised....perhaps that was a random bit of selective hearing though...dunno

Yay, Tikki Tech's first foal hit the ground today. Out of a 351.2 GP foundation paint mare. Lower GP than expected (finishing at around 356.+) but still nice. No tears used and had 70+% IBS default smiley (y).
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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 20:13:03
Sorry I should have posted the names of the people, there were two people ahead of my ad that were saying they needed barb foals which is why I put it here next time I will post it in a pm instead

Sorry
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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 20:14:33
Forest Queen,

That's respectable for a second gen (or first gen depending on who you are) default smiley ;). I am getting high 355's out of my foundation horses. I hope they do better at blupping than their parents lol.

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By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 20:15:59
I have seen a few mention their '1st' gens are hitting 357.....I was hoping for that from a paired 351.2 cross default smiley (lol) Awe well....perhaps it has to do with the cross breeding default smiley (o)
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By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 20:23:13
There's a decent random factor - you might find that he produces much higher GP foals on breedings with other 351.20 mares. I've had quite a range in foal GP from set pairs, even.
By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 20:26:40
Quite strange IC.....strange indeed default smiley *-)

*sigh* whenever I get around to BLUPing his paired mate we shall see what happens eh? default smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 20:32:31
http://www.howrse.com/marche/priveVoir?id=5696135&requete=

Cheap Foundation
By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 20:42:36
ellenwfan, she was originaly mine, sold her for 500 (yes, how dumb i am) and the next owner immediately put her out for sale for 1400. Just couldn't see where I'd get the time for her haha.

If anyone has some foundie morgans around, please contact me if there's some for sale default smiley (y)
By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 20:44:26
Skyblerier I might have some
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By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 20:57:12
That would be great Forest Queen!
By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 20:58:41
*sigh* seems I must have sold my last foal. Sorry Skriblerier
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By rocket_girl, 6th January 2010 21:10:43
Just picked up a marwari foundie before games. Anyone here do them?
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By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 21:10:59
No problem ;]
By Retired breeder, 6th January 2010 21:27:33
In response to the discussion about 1G foals GP's, i have bred over 100 from a variety of different pairs of foundies and my only 1G foal to break 357 came from a pair who had GP's of between 350.80 and 350.90, where as i have bred 2 351.20's and struggled to break 356. My average GP for a 1G is now around 356.40, but i still get high 355's and a few around the 356.90 mark.
By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 21:37:47
I just personally took a look at the GP (took the mare owners word on him) of the colt by Tikki.....it SHOULD finish at 357.07!!!! default smiley :o *does a little dance*
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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 22:16:56
Nice, what a good stallion he is. I need to get me some passes so I can make me a super stud hehe.

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By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 22:19:39
default smiley :p, I plan on elite training his mate as well. She will (hopefully) only be trained in a .1% EC so I can break that 500% skills barrier with her default smiley :)

Can't wait to see their foal with tears default smiley :-))
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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 22:31:58
It will definitely be a showstopper. I can't wait to see it.

I am finding that it's easy to find girl foundation foals but harder to find boys. I wonder why that is. I have noticed I have 5 foundation stallions in training and 9 mares. They boys seem slightly outnumbered.

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By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 22:34:54
haha I have so many mares....when I first started I would get annoyed because all I had were studs....now it is the other way around.
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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 22:37:42
I wish it were that way in my barn the poor boys....the girls are going to gang up on them and take over the world...that is if they every finish training :P lol

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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 22:46:17
Oh my goodness my most resilient foundation mare finally got her first win!!! I might not survive until she gets 20 hehe.

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By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 22:48:12
default smiley (lol) gotta love the way foundations choose to undertake competitions eh?
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By Rowen, 6th January 2010 22:54:45
yeah it's funny some of my really low gp foundations are not having any troubles getting wins and she just refuses to get any iand she has 351.20 for gp. Stubborn thing hehe.

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By Forest Queen, 6th January 2010 22:56:03
I would load her up with items, but that is just me default smiley :p
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