[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 3rd January 2010 20:03:32
Pintar, I was referring to the PSH foal default smiley :)
By rocket_girl, 3rd January 2010 21:10:24
*><* I lost both of those horses i bid on default smiley :p
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By rocket_girl, 3rd January 2010 21:21:22
http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=1398250] Look what i just picked up!

Anyone have any stallies?

Riv, Are your guys still offering coverings?
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By Retired breeder, 3rd January 2010 22:51:18
Is anyone offering NIB Arab Stallions for Stud? Much Needed.
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 00:31:06
Do unicorns count?

I just picked up this guy and was wondering if I breed him to my foundy that it would result in a NiB.

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=2644093

I also have this little guy I picked up, which I will be working on.

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=8318974
By tahnee, 4th January 2010 00:32:44
I am looking for NIB Australian Ponies! Any reasonable offer will be brought default smiley :d
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By tahnee, 4th January 2010 02:40:35
Disappearing Lines -

Just found several of my NIB howrses have missing Lines!!! default smiley :@

Should i get rid of them or continue default smiley *-)
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By aml919, 4th January 2010 03:10:04
CraziU - I have lots of Foundation & 2nd generation Arab Stallions. Check my Already Bred & Arabs to be Bred tabs. All of the horses have 100 BLUP and all skills bolded - Coverings are 200e, just send me the name of the mare & the stallion you want to use.

tahnee - to count in the listings above, the horse can't have any ancestors that have disappeared. Some breeders don't care & will keep those horses in their program. Personally, I don't use them in my breeding program, but the final decision is yours.
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By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 03:21:24
Hello! I am interested in buying this horse, but I don't know what a fair equus only offer would be. I'm not really good at judging. default smiley :( default smiley (lol) Any suggestions? It is a foundation Aussie. default smiley :)

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=188882
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 03:22:08
I'm looking for any other Foundation Aussie Stallions to buy too! default smiley :)
By Forest Queen, 4th January 2010 04:21:37
Oregon and Tahnee I have some foundies default smiley ;)

It looks like one of Tikki Tech's mares have found another to go with so he now has 3 left again instead of two default smiley (y)
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By Yankee Lady, 4th January 2010 06:35:19
Pintar5,
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All my PSH foundation breeding stock has been sold except for Senor Milo and Mtztery who I am keeping for coverings. The only PSHes still for sale can be found under "PSHes for Sale" tab/breeding farm. Really want to see them all go to NIB breeders.
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However I still have the 2 young foundie stallions, 351.20 GP, that still need BULPing finished (make offers):
1 - 1TS Nutty, foundation colt, 6 years, 351.20 GP, has H Shoes, M Arms, and C Timer
2 - 1TS Peppermint, foundation colt, 351.20 GP, has H Shoes, M Arms, and C Timer
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I also still have the 5 2nd gen NIB foals (make offers):
1 - 2G Angel's Alto, 2 years, 2nd gen NIB colt, 354.57 GP, has A Lyre
2 - 2G Angel's Medias, 2 years, 2nd gen NIB colt, 354.57 GP, has A Lyre
3 - 2G Sombra's Cada, 2 year, 2nd gen NIB filly, 354.74 GP, no BM items
4 - 2G Erinsol Red Roy, 6 month, 2nd gen NIB colt, 354.90 GP pre-games, no BM items
5 - 2G Erinsol Red Rod, 6 month, 2nd gen NIB colt, 354.90 GP pre-games, no BM items
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The Erinsol twins are only related to each other and parents, no other horse in entire game, so basically new bloodline. Their parents are newly 100 BLUPed and twins are result of first breeding for both of them.
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All the rest of my PSHes are either under negotiation or are sold and just waiting for pickup when new owner has enough passes.
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Contact me via PM if interested in any of them. Have had nibbles on stallions but no firm offer yet. Will be putting the stallions up in sales soon, need the space for my Morgans.
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By Yankee Lady, 4th January 2010 06:53:51
Rocket Girl,
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I have 2 PSH foundation stallions standing stud duty, both 351.20 GP and 100 BLUP:
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1 - Senor Milo, just returning from calendar year+ retirement to let foals get older and out of system more, always good sire, latest foal born 356.98 GP, will be 358.18 GP after games. Covering 1,000e, NIB Breeders covering 50% off at 500e.
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2 - Mtztery, just starting breeding career, latest foal born 356.38, will be 357.58 GP after games. Covering 400e, NIB Breeders covering 50% off at 200e.
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If interested in coverings please PM me. Only allow them to do 2 matings a day. Always make sure they are at 100% health, 100% energy, and 100% morale before covering. Have found that if both parents are at 100% of everything the foals often seem to have higher birth GP.
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Mare requirements: 100% PSH (can be Pegasus or Unicorn as long as 100% PSH), either IB or NIB (but NIB Breeders get 50% reduction in covering fees), 100 BULP, and request that the owners have mares at 100% of heath, energy, and morale before accepting covering.
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Request that I be notified when foals born with their name, birth date, gender, and birth GP for my records. Try one of these two fine foundation stallions on your mares, I don't think you will be disappointed at the results.
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By rocket_girl, 4th January 2010 10:43:05
Yankee Lady, I will PM you default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 12:06:42
Hello everyone,
I started breeding NIB mustangs back in May of 09, took a break to get my ec in the top 500.
This thread has inspired me to get back in to the NIB breeding. I am trying to decide if I want to stay with the mustangs(hard to find) or try a new breed.
Importance of good records or keeping your foundation stock, I rechecked all of my 2nd and 3rd generation foals and lost 15 of them because of a missing horse in the linage.
Oh well live and learn, good luck to all of you on your quest for NIB greenstar.
Catch ya at the hitchin postdefault smiley :)
By prettybones, 4th January 2010 13:00:48
who needs foundies in these breeds;

brumby
marwari
russian don
quarter pony
paint
irish hunter
hano

please PM me
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By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:21:15
I have Mustangs, i am looking for them to go to a person who will look after and buy them all as a bunch for

passes or just equus i dont mind default smiley :d
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:21:25
Well, I'm working on my NIBs again after a small break of a few weeks - definitely missed them, although I'd forgotten how annoying it is to BLUP one that comes with some training done... Took the usual tactic of loading up with skill-boost items, so she should do okay.

Does anyone know of any players currently able to get hold of Gaia foals?
By rocket_girl, 4th January 2010 13:27:25
Sorry Inner, Nope default smiley :(
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By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:28:27
It's not urgent (lots of foals still to game and BLUP, argh) - just wondering as I'd like to pick some more up for future use.
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:39:39
How can you get Gaia foals??
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:41:17
You can buy them from a new player who has created them. default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:44:38
oh right default smiley :d

My cuzen had one but it died default smiley :( but if you have a p.box default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:50:39
I'm really looking for a new player who has bought passes - someone who can access the private sales and use the Gaia Foal item to create custom foals.
By Retired breeder, 4th January 2010 13:52:31
oh right default smiley :d
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