[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 03:03:15
I will take any foundation PSH foals or adults of any color, age, gender, etc that have gotten to 351.2 GP. I can pay top dollar and no affix horses would be greatly appreciated.
By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 03:59:40
Hi,
I've been breeding NIB horses for a while. I'll buy any non-inbred Canadian with good GP or foundation horses. Thanks
By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 04:03:01
Did somebody here say they were looking for NIB Pasos? I seem to recall somebody awhile ago mentioning it but I can't for the life of me find the post now.
By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 04:24:04
hey, I have three foundy Quarter Ponies. I have been breeding NIB shetlands. Got rid of my barbs because I just didn't have the time (regret it now though). Anyhows, I do not have enough Quarter Ponies to make a NIB go of it so if anyone has any or is interested in teaming up to help out PM me. I thought we better get Quarter Ponies on the NIB list!
By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 04:32:14
i have a first Gen white Arabian colt if anyone is interested pm me
By Forest Queen, 31st December 2009 08:21:09
Tikki Tech is now down to 3 outside coverings left default smiley (y). Remember he will be offering 3 more coverings at 500e to the public of any NIB breed of mare, preferably higher than 350.5 GP and only 100 BLUP default smiley (y)

Seems people out number me the way they count generations default smiley xd As I have always seen it foundations are the first generation of horse so that is why I count the way I do.

There was something else I was going to say but it is about 12:30am here and I just got off of work so who knows......
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 09:29:11
Hiya!

Does anybody here breed non-inbred hackneys?

Thanks!
Oakwood Stud
By rocket_girl, 31st December 2009 09:50:54
jgoslinger, Ive PMed you default smiley :)
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By prettybones, 31st December 2009 11:18:52
OK people, if you are looking i have a few foundies I want to offload.
Breeds are:

Brumby Filly 350.40 GP 1.2 yrs
Quarter Pony Filly 2 months
Marwari Colt 6 months
Marwari Stud 350.46 GP 4.10 yrs
Marwari Colt 6 months


PM me if you are wanting any default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 12:53:02
I am currenlty listing some untouched foundation Shetlands, as well as a selection of NIB Connie foals. All of the Connie foalsare tears bred from 100blup parents and are very decent stock, just dupicates of my lines. All no pass sales and prices all negotiable. Please check out my sales default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 13:26:38
http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=8926303
(1G) 357.35default smiley :o

(2G)362.42
http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=8952961

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=8751811
(351.20_GP)

me&&Horse4ever are looking for BP
By vag111, 31st December 2009 15:39:06
I'm in need of some more Brumbies! (As always) Let me know if you have any.default smiley ;)
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 15:48:04
That really stinks trying to breed NIB PSHs. Since foundation are rare, not many people breed them. So I m tying to find some foundation of decent quality. I just went through the lot of foundation PSH in the Sale and not one of them gamed correctly. I saw two foals 1st gen foals with 349. somthing. So, my only chance is to go to big breeders, which I have, but none want to sell their foundation cause if I delete my account their line will be lost. Greedy people. I have 4 that were very expensive,( 8k, 8k, 9k and 10k) and I just realized none of them gamed correctly. That player ripped me off. So, to the point, I am looking for foundation foals under 6 months or adults with correct gaming. Any color, age, gender, etc. No affixes would be appreciated greatly. I can pay top dollar for what I just discribed.
By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 15:50:23
Remember, foals under 6 months or adults with 351.2 GP!
By rocket_girl, 31st December 2009 16:01:44
Pintar, Im doing PSH awell. Theres a few nice GP 2nd and 3rd gen NIBs in there. A few foals default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 16:16:41
Us PSH breeders should team up. Like Pintar, I'm realizing how rare well gamed PSH's are or even foundation foals before games.

What makes me sick is I had like 4 on my previous account. Won them straight from the nut UFO competition.

I should not have sold them *hits self in head*
By Chiana, 31st December 2009 17:44:02
Pintar5 you can ask a player with a account under 20 days to sell you a Gaia foal. I have a friend that sold me a couple foundations that way, one of which was a PSH foal.
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 18:43:02
getting into NIB horse is hard with all the inbred highstars. sorry about earlier it didn't occur to me that it was against the rules my bad
By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 19:07:07
Yeah, Alassiel, it is extremely hard. rocket_girl, yes there were, but very expensive and I am trying to start my own line. Chiana, that is a good idea. The problem with PSHs are is that when a new player gets a foundation, they don't game it right, and big breeders with correctly gamed horses don't want to sell theirs. Sigh.....
By Misabel, 31st December 2009 20:03:09
I'm going to start breeding NIB Thoroughbreds.

I purchased a few green-stars at first, but...well, I know they're just pixels, but I've studied too many real TB pedigrees not to cringe at the degree of inbreeding. default smiley ;) I've already got a fully BLUPed foundie stallion, and just purchased a few more NIBs at auction....it'll be a while before they're ready to breed, but I'm looking forward to starting. default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 31st December 2009 20:25:11
I just searched through 2 pages of PSH horses with less than 352 GP in the Auctions, hoping to discover a lost treasure ..Discusting It is sad. Most foals are 1st gen and like 349GP, then there are horses halfway between games, and the adults aren't correctly gamed. There was only one horse I bid on, and I made it mch higher than the asking price. I personally PMed the owner asking them to put it in the Sales for me. I'm not going to link to it or say the name, but it is a 6 month old fillyl I plan to game it using Riven's schedule. That IF I win the bid. I hope no other NIBer finds it. I'll be checking on her, so, all of you PSH NIBers, don't go looking for her. She is MINE! I have big plans for her.....
By rocket_girl, 31st December 2009 20:27:15
Pintar, Maybe we should bunk together to help a bit? Ive got one mare, No where near the max but im going to chase up a few friends default smiley :)
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By rocket_girl, 31st December 2009 20:37:22
*Crosses a friend off the list*
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By Emberrogue, 31st December 2009 20:39:03
Yes Rivenwood, I am looking for NIB Pasos. I'm not sure if someone else is also looking.
To let you NIB PSHers know, I have a 100BLUP nearly fully bolded PSH stally offering anyone here covers. He is my first horse and sorry, no he was not correctly gamed as I didn't find the "no salt" games until after it was too late. I had to wait until day 10 to buy several horses which I put in boxes for several days in a row almost all day each until I finally found a saltstone so by then he was already too old. 351.06 if anyone is interested. I am also looking to buy and breed/ exchange PSH stallions/ mares with others. I am not greedy default smiley :p
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By Chiana, 31st December 2009 20:46:34
Pintar5, the girl I bought the foals from didn't game them, I did. She is able to get foundations from a BM item since she is a new player. The link below is to the PSH foundation she made for me. If you want to you can ask her to make some for you. I'm surprised not many NIBers aren't doing this!

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=8933538
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