[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 29th December 2009 23:07:40
I just wanted to share my excitement about my latest NIB Connie foal. I know some of you NIB breeders who do horse breeds have already broken 357 for a 1G foal, but as far as i am aware none of the pony breeds have managed it so far. I have just broken 357 by a fair bit with my latest 1G foal being 357.13 default smiley :-))
http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=8985031
By Retired breeder, 29th December 2009 23:12:29
I am thinking of starting a few threads in my forum just for NIB breeders. This will be a place where you can find breeding partners and see who is who in the NIB game. My hope is to expand this out so we can help one another out with breed tracking, etc. If you are interested in having your name here, please let me know.
By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 01:44:18
Congrats kaliko99! Woo-woo!! default smiley (y)
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By ready-set-go, 30th December 2009 02:45:24
That's great kaliko!!
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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 03:34:34
I am looking for foundation aussie stallions to start with my NIB project. Please PM me if you have any you are willing to sell. default smiley :)
By Forest Queen, 30th December 2009 03:53:33
Oregon I already responded to your post in the Nego forums default smiley ;). I am pretty sure I have foundation stallions default smiley *-)
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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 05:30:42
All my PMs have been sent out for Updating the NIBers List..if I have missed anyone please contact me or if you are Interested in joining the List..We would all be more than happy to have you...thanks for your patience while doing this..If you dont know what im talking about you can go to some of the older NIBers on the game most still have the banner that is linked to the NIBers List...I have mine if you cant find one...Happy Howrsing all..and hope to hear from all of you..default smiley :-))

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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 05:32:56
I would love to join the list. I'm currently working on NIB hanos. I also have 2 foundie quarter horses, but they need training/blupping before I breed them.

I'm still looking for a foundie hano filly, preferably untouched. It seems Rivenwood and I are in a bid war for a filly, and her auction still has 2 days left LOL
By Forest Queen, 30th December 2009 05:33:34
I have placed a 100 BLUP foundation mare (arabian) in PS for 40k if anyone is interested. She has tons of BMs and 417% skills default smiley (y). Her last foal has 355.98 GP (possible after games, not at birth default smiley ;)). I am very willing to negotiate as I already have more than one copy of that GA and have a foal from her

Starting Right I have never been to the site but I am only a NIBer when it comes to arabians. I have sold all of my connies default smiley (y). I don't know if that helps your list at alldefault smiley *-)
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By Forest Queen, 30th December 2009 05:35:50
matersalad here is my foundie hano mare that I own. I got it as a gift from one of the GA collectors for Christmas. I am willing to let her go to a NIBer though default smiley :). She has nice skills for her age even which is hard to come by anymore
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By nlriver, 30th December 2009 05:40:23
Forest Queen: Wow, that horse is incredible! Fantastic job training him! I'm planning on doing that with one Morgan, as soon as I can collect enough POCs, or a Nyx pack would do nicely, as I already have everything else that I need.

Starting Right: I'd also like to join the list! I think I tried to register for it a few weeks ago but they had no selection for Morgans, as they hadn't added in the world tour breeds. I can't remember if I actually went ahead and registered or not, though.

Got another foundie nearly BLUPped, has nine wins so far and I need a box for another one so I can train her, she already has her wins so I just need a decent EC to finish her training/bold her. Having a lot of trouble finding one though.

Also considering taking up NIB Irish Hunters but I don't know if I'll have the time for both breeds default smiley (lol)
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By Forest Queen, 30th December 2009 05:43:39
Thank you very much riverdoe. I calculate that it should be easy enough to break 500 skills if a horse is in an EC with .1% gain but it is a matter of convincing a top EC to let you board default smiley xd. Luckily for me a friend of mine offered her .099% EC so that was grand!. I will be doing the same kind of training as I did with Tikki Tech on his breeding mate I purchased and then any others I will do full bolding and skilling until 25 (puts most at around 440% skills).

If you are interested I have a foundation IH in my other horses tab with a .9something GP I believe default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 06:05:12
All Chromed Out will be ready to give covers very soon. He is a Foundation Paint Horse. He is almost 100% BLUP and will have all 6 skills bolded; if not tonight, tomorrow sometime, for sure.

Be sure to stop by and see him - he loves company!
By nlriver, 30th December 2009 06:55:04
Is anyone NIB-ing Hanoverians over on Caballow? I would ask there but I'm not confident in writing in Spanish XD
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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 08:11:54
Remember to watch the ads guys. This place is for discussing NIB horses and you're welcome to post that you're looking for something particular so others can PM you, but please don't post ads. We don't want this topic cluttered with so many ads that the content is lost default smiley :)
By bluetempest, 30th December 2009 10:32:29
I BLUPing an Arabian if anyone has comps they want her to run in. Please PM me. She can enter races with 7%-9% in the open races and 5%-9% in the breed specific races for trotting. 23-24% in the open races and 20-24% in the breed specific races for galloping.
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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 12:48:19
I have a foundation foal that came to me at one year and no games. She is rare so I'd like to see if I can get her to 351.2. How many times can you use the black orchid?
By bluetempest, 30th December 2009 13:51:16
As many times as you want. I think I use 3 on a foal once to see if I could get over 351.2.
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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 14:21:41
Mmh, sometimes I wish I would not have any ideas on my head. I just realised that my high GP barb mare (354.73) has mother with even higher (356.11). That's not the sad thing...it's the fact that the mother has GA coat and is owned by coat collector who will not sell. Well, I didn't even ask but with that coat I'm pretty sure that she is not for sale at eny price default smiley :(

By the way, can I entry that mare on the highest GP list even shes not mine?
By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 16:07:13
does anyone have a fully BLUP canadian stallion thats a first generation NIB that i can cover my mare with?
By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 16:16:12
I have a foundation Mustang
and if anyone wants to start mustangs Pm me
By Forest Queen, 30th December 2009 16:36:58
Blinkyli you could probably PM the coat collector to ask if they are willing to breed the mare to a NIB stallion (if you have the stallion send a covering). I am one and know several that are more than willing to do that for players. default smiley (y)
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By Retired breeder, 30th December 2009 17:12:10
But no you cannot enter someone elses howrse into the highest GP unless they are interested in becoming a NIBer...that would be against their wishes if you did so..and trust me there is probably lots of howrses out there somewhere that have really high GPs..
By Forest Queen, 30th December 2009 17:28:39
anyone have some foundation arabians lying around they don't need/want? default smiley ;)
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