[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Forest Queen, 7th December 2009 23:56:01
Hmmmm Riven you sound like me default smiley :p when I am capable of being online for the end of any of my auctions haha
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By Storms Ransome, 8th December 2009 00:24:25
a very nice player sold me 4 or 5 Foundys today default smiley :) Almost all my paints right now are Foundation default smiley :) So happy!

I also have a ton of Foundation Morgans now

And now I am focused on finding Foundation Mustangs and Appaloosas as well as Quarter Horses default smiley :)

But I am really happy that my Paint project is getting off the ground default smiley :)
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By Storms Ransome, 8th December 2009 00:25:13
I was excited and just felt like sharing my success with people who are NIB breeders as well default smiley ;)
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 00:26:05
That's good Ransome default smiley :-))

I'm currently waiting on several shutterfly arabian auctions to end default smiley :-)), some aren't even too high of bidding (in my opinion anyway)
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By Storms Ransome, 8th December 2009 00:28:08
Thanks Forest default smiley :) I think I'm going to go search through the PS for some Mustangs since I only have 3 NiB Mustangs default smiley :( I searched through my horse Palouse who I bought before his some horses in his line disappeared, and I still am going to use him default smiley ;) but I was a little sad.

Hey Riven, was my entry for my Palomino Quarter Horse alright?
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By nlriver, 8th December 2009 00:29:53
I've just gone a bit mad and bought several more foundation Morgans. And I only have 4 fully BLUPped. And er... 70? foals that are in need of being BLUPped. I am gonna have a lot of fun with this....

I love BLUPping horses, I don't know why. I was BLUPping a 17* IH the other day and he was done in like 3 hours. It was so annoying that that's all it took, especially when my foundations and low GP horses take days to BLUP.
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By Storms Ransome, 8th December 2009 00:31:23
I bet that was annoying riverdoe default smiley :) good luck with your Morgans default smiley ;) i am going to start on my breeding with Morgans very soon hopefully default smiley :) right now I'm just getting my herds together
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 00:36:59
Sleepless Dawn is currently maxing his trotting and galloping and I am entering him in some open galloping comps. If anyone has some fillers or is in need of galloping wins I will understand if a NIBer goes against him in some default smiley ;). He is a third gen and still gaining skills with several bonuses so keep that in mind when entering horses that need wins default smiley ;)
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By Storms Ransome, 8th December 2009 00:45:09
what breed is Sleepless Dawn, Forest?
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 00:53:46
Arabian though the galloping races are in the open breed default smiley ;) so he may be a filler for someone else if they need default smiley :)

I had a link posted on the last page I think
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 01:11:04
*sigh* finally done with gallop and on to trot....I'm using aging points so I'm feeling some pain from it default smiley (lol)
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By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 01:21:13
For getting those elusive 20 wins with foundations and lower generations, I think it might be neat to set a certain time for NIBers to enter their horses and their fillers, as sort of a group effort to get some wins down. I'd be specificallly looking for Hanoverian fillers, but I think it might be a nice community thing to have a day or time or something where we work together to get wins (through filling and not stomping of course!)

Any suggestions for times (GMT) or days?
By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 01:26:41
My work schedule isn't set and aside from that I am in the middle of moving default smiley :( after the holidays I may be able to do something like that.....maybe around February or something default smiley :-x
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 01:36:51
Yay! Finally finished trotting so now just have to finish training then get wins to be allll done with him default smiley :p
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By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 01:42:23
Just thought I would offer, I have foundation QH stallion I would be willing to discuss covers from if anyone is interested. default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 01:56:45
Storms Ransomme you will have to ask Riven what happened...Im not to sure on that aspects...but It was really neat and sure helped us keep up in the game at least a little..lol
By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 02:12:55
Finally aaaaall done with Sleepless Dawn's training. Only need 14 wins so will just wait out the days for the wins now default smiley :p. He is just shy of 12 years and has 470+skills already. If I put a WOY on him he may get close to 500 skills especially if I POC him but I'm not sure if I want to do either default smiley xd
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 04:36:31
Mac .12 IM MA

Another horse I just bolded all skills in. Took forever too because I am sooo easily....*chases butterfly that caught the corner of my eye*

lmao
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By Yankee Lady, 8th December 2009 06:36:33
Some people have mentioned using a genealogy program to keep track of pedigrees -- has anyone found one that works and doesn't cost hundreds of dollars? Some I've looked at seem to have limited generations that can be recorded unless you buy a deluxe edition some 4 or 5 times the cost of the regular. Would appreciate some suggestions on software people have used and liked.
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I am going into NIB Morgans (getting out of NIB PSHes), but have been too busy to do much with them. I'm always in the market for foundation Morgan fillies under 6 months old. I have 50 foals through games at 351.20 and hope to start BLUPing them soon, have another 50+ waiting to be named and set up for games. This time of year is always busy for me, and this one is worse than usual since I went out of town for several days over Thanksgiving for first time in more than 10 years. Returned to blazing wild fires both in real world work and Howrse -- hope to have at least a couple of NIB Morgan studs ready for coverings by end of year, with broodmares soon after them.
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Will also have, as soon as he finishes his BLUPing (still needs 5 wins), a foundation Irish Hunter standing stud.
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Wishing everyone a great pre-Christmas time of joy default smiley (h) with as little stress as possible.
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 06:48:55
Presence .08 IM MA

*phew* Finish bolding my 3rd horse today, a foundation mare. Hopefully I get few random wins from all of the comps she entered in. She was old with few skills when I started her, thus the 16 years of age she is at default smiley xd Luckily she is another immortal so no worries on age.

I hope to do more bolding tomorrow after work, maybe another one or two and some comps for my old, old immortals I have too. Who knows, I just might get somewhere this week default smiley xd

Night yalldefault smiley (8)
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By Yankee Lady, 8th December 2009 06:57:40
Forest Qreen,
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Just don't forget that all horses, mortal or immortal, stop increasing skills at age 25. The immortal don't lose any but they don't gain any more either. So if you want your mare BULPed, you need to finish before she turns 25.
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By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 07:44:17
Yankee Lady- do you mean horses will stop gaining skills from lessons?....because they can gain skilld from rides training ETC. If there immortal. default smiley (o) no offence but i thought you would know that default smiley (lol). I hope i understood your conversation, and i'm sorry if i did not but its late at night default smiley xd.
By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 07:47:09
Yes she still will gain skills until she is 25 through riding lessons which she will be used in every time I do something with her until then. It is no longer required to BLUP her though it is just nice to add to the skills so that the IBS of the foal will be higher. Tomorrow I may age those that I sped trained tomorrow by another year or two then speed train a few more until they are bolded. Bolding them is what really takes the most time when it comes to speed training but then there is waiting for all of those wins default smiley xd Again I am lucky that she is immortal as often times it may take more than 9 'years' for her to collect all of those wins.

random glitch??
I went to place him in an EC and bold him up for a friend and noticed something odd with his gear in the bonuses tab.......I won't add him to an EC until later I don't think so it doesn't seem like it is because he is in an EC......
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 07:48:39
sidney I think she was just trying to remind me that horses will always gain skills from lessons as long as they are younger than 25. If they are older than 25 they can't gain through lessons but can from training, comps and rides if they weren't fully trained before hitting that age.
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By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 08:02:06
nice NIB Friesian stud I have

The stud above is up for private coverings of 200e each. Let me know if interested default smiley ;). Will let him go to a friesian breeding herd for the right price but I am not going to just place him in sales until I get an interested buyer default smiley ;)
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