[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 10:13:01
Rivenwood: my filly is a year old, so she has four "days" of work left.
By Forest Queen, 8th December 2009 16:55:36
finished this one up just before I had to get ready for work

*sigh* alright. Off to work and when I get back I have 2 with WOY and MA that I plan on doing today.....lets see how my conviction is with that later though default smiley (lol)
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By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 17:43:07
Happy to see this topic is so popular. I breed NIB connies and barbs but keeping it small at the moment. Sadly I forgot to submit my barb mares information on sunday...waiting for next sunday since my mare has more GP than the one on the list. That one was a lucky purchase from auctions. Didn't even know about NIBs when I bought her default smiley :-))
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 18:29:07
I seen a nib somewhere
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 19:11:33
LoloJean - with the BO, she should get to or very very close to 351.2.

When I use the black orchid to game babies, I start off by grooming and feeding them the max amount they need for the day (if they need an off number, like 6.4 pounds, I round up to 7 pounds). Then I game them to as close to 0% energy possible. Once they have extremely low energy, I go to the BM and give them the BO. After I immediately go back to their page, and game them to 20% (sometimes a little higher) energy levels or until it hits 22:00 in their day, whichever comes first. I always put them to bed in pasture, no matter the season. All you see is a morale drop and by giving the BO daily, that is taken care of.

If you want to game the foal to 351.2, you will likely have to use 4 BO's to get there (or as close as is possible).

Good luck! Let us know how the foal turns out default smiley :)
By Storms Ransome, 8th December 2009 20:05:00
I'm looking for Foundation QHs, Mustangs, and Appaloosas. IF anyone has any can they PM me?

Riven, is it ok if I post here what I am looking for?
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By Storms Ransome, 8th December 2009 20:05:44
Sorry about the capitalized if, i didnt' realize i had kep my finger on the shift key till i caught a glance of it after submitting it
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By Aoifala, 8th December 2009 20:08:29
I have some NIB foals that I am willing to part with, two are in the sales at the minute a friesian I think and a brumby. I have more so if people are interested let me know default smiley ;)
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By vag111, 8th December 2009 20:14:19
Grrr. I'm still stuck at 15 wins for Sahara. I've been working on him for weeks now!
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By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 21:16:19
how much would my Austrailian Foundation be worth ??
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 21:21:30
ellenwfan - Your Aussie foundie is not well trained for age and doesnt have a great blup, but does have good BM items and a nice GA. You may find he will be worth more to a GA collector than a NIB breeder as he needs alot of work to blup and is at the low end of the foundie GP scale default smiley :) You could put him in private sales and see if you get any interest default smiley *-)
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 21:22:21
thanks i know he's not the best but i'd likee to get some interest from him default smiley :d any idea for a ad??
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 21:31:33
I would put that he is NIB in the listing as that will attract NIB breeders to look, and also list his BM items. Anyone looking for GA coats will likely check him out anyway default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 21:32:59
okay thanksdefault smiley :d
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 21:45:30
Storms Ransome - yes, you may post wanted ads here default smiley :) Ads for horses for sale are not permitted.
By Retired breeder, 8th December 2009 21:49:19
Ihave just used the GA you have on him for one of my foundies. Hagnt seen ot before and really like it default smiley :)
By vag111, 8th December 2009 23:22:21
Any ideas for how I can get Sahara to his last 5 wins. I've been trying for weeks now.
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By Dr Zig, 9th December 2009 00:09:54
Hi Rivenwood. Don't know if you are still around. You might be interested in an article in the latest edition of the Horse Health Newsletter. It is about the apparent relationship between coat colours in some paint horses and deafness in them. This would suggest a linked trait, which is very interesting. My own research found no link between coat colour and behaviour in thoroughbreds, despite the popular myths that exist - though further research would be warranted default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 9th December 2009 00:19:14
My suggestion would be to use stam comps for Sahara. Make sure you use the scrolly bar to be able to enter the lowest possible comp he possibly can. You should get your wins fairly fast.
By Retired breeder, 9th December 2009 00:20:34
Also trot races should work pretty good as well.
Oo and on a bright note default smiley :) I have a new foal for the Low Ridge NIB farm default smiley :)
By Dr Zig, 9th December 2009 00:25:34
I'm hoping to work on my foundation and second generation mustangs next week. Do many people use freisians for the NIB program? I have a few second generations freisians and I'm not sure what to do with them. I might sell or use them for NIB breeding myself default smiley *-)
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By Retired breeder, 9th December 2009 00:33:01
I have seen several folks who breed NIB friesians throughout the post. With luck you could possibly find a buyer for them.
By Dr Zig, 9th December 2009 00:36:49
Cool. Thanks livelyblueyes default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 9th December 2009 01:30:33
Ugg this 1g mare I am working is taking forever. She isn;t the best buy far but she is decent and with luck should pop a fair foal once I get her blupped and cross her with my horse calculated risk. However, it's looking as if I will be lucky to get 1 foal out of her at the rate things are going. She needs 5 more wins and even one of my foundies is beating her default smiley :(
By Rymskynx, 9th December 2009 01:37:39
I'm having a heck of a time getting wins with any of my horses right now... it's getting kinda frustrating. So I can relate livelyblueyes. default smiley (n)
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