[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Asfridur, 9th August 2019 18:13:12
I might as well as the Arabians.
Would love to get the current pastry divine and be able to get a steady flow of RG’s.
But the memort game is usualle expensive to finish. So I’ll probably have to settle for sales.

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Wasn’t there some pastry divine in a future release that is supposed to give Shagya?
Or maybe I’m mistaken
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By BRM, 9th August 2019 20:58:50


Not on this server for me. Lol, but I'll keep it anyways for NIB covers and side projects. My US account has a different objective.
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By OperaticSkeleton, 13th August 2019 01:50:32
I'm curious - what do NIB breeders think of the Pastry divines and their offspring? Are they valid foundies for NIB lines, or do the Pastry parents count as a reappearing horse in the family tree?
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By Misabel, 13th August 2019 02:42:59


The foals are usable, and would still count as purebreds - just be sure you don't use the same pair of Divines more than once.

So if you have a pair of your own, you'd have to be careful not to use more than one of their foals in the same pedigree - but you can scoop up foals bred from other players' Pastries, and use them. It would just mean keeping track of the Pasty parents' ID numbers.
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By Asfridur, 13th August 2019 17:05:01
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I'm going to invent my own version of almost NIB's with the Pastry critters I have. That way I'll at least be able to use them for something. And I'll then just mix and match with other Barbs etc that I can pick up from sales.
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By Twinjodi, 14th August 2019 01:07:20
I guess in my NIBbing, Pastry foals can be huge as they can really put a jump on GP to get your GP up there for first generation pairings at least. But the other thing is actually GETTING one when you don't have the Divines to produce them, let alone two different ones lol
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By RowanGreen, 14th August 2019 02:22:49
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I don't know if it's where you saw it, but on preprod there was some discussion of what a 3rd breed could be for the current pastries, since all the other pastries give 3 breeds.
Shagya's were suggested, but they actually come from the Austro-Hungarian empire, same as Lippizaners. They are descended from Arabians, and still out-crossed to them, but are bred to be taller, more solid and have calmer temperaments.


Re Pastry foals, seems to me it could be a matter of choice how you see them, same as some people use only 350 GP foundies, and some use recent ones. Counting pastry foals as foundies would make NIB easier, so maybe some prefer to keep the challenge up?

Never got into NIB myself, but I do keep pastries myself, so how the foals are classified is of interest to me. Personally I do think the foals are foundies: they come from a divine and don't have a genetic relationship to the pastry parents. They follow foundie gp (though of course they have the high skills on top). I think someone compared them to Quillin foals: but surely they are different as they do have a genetic relationship to their mother? (Same breed)

By the way, are foals from Ran, Hipparion and Kaktos seen as foundies?
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By BRM, 14th August 2019 09:30:58


I believe they are, but I don't know what it shows as parentage. Do they have the divine listed as a parent or Gaia/Ouranus?
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By Misabel, 14th August 2019 15:26:50
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Their 'parents' are Ouranos & Gaia. The only Divines who actually appear as parents on non-Divine foals (that I can think of, anyway) are the Pastries and Qilin.
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By BRM, 14th August 2019 20:28:31


Thought as much, thanks!
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By Twinjodi, 18th August 2019 11:41:40
FRENCH TROTTER
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Diving M (Subject to change)
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter
Current GP: 4226.57 (first gen)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=60353561

Out of another 4128 pairing. We reached 300 foals produced/created this week default smiley :) default smiley :) ... if only every pairing had a good foal on the first try... *sigh*

HOLSTEINER
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Cherry F (Subject to change)
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Holsteiner
Current GP: 4592.80 (first gen)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=60293733
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By Twinjodi, 18th August 2019 11:52:51
2 horses/1 pair is one generation

4 horses/2 pair is two generations

8 horses/4 pair is three generations

16 horses/8 pair is four generations

32 horses/16 pair is five generations

64 horses/32 pairs is six generations

128 horses/64 pair is seven generations

256 horses/128 pair is eight generations

512 horses/256 pair is nine generations [And if you have more than this, congratulations!!! WOW!]

The chart for a reminder of what we aspire to get to. For anyone that may in the future need first generation babies, I have decided to probably try and get six generations (64 horses) for each new event RG Foundation. So this started at the Trotters, and I now have Holsteiners, Camargue (still collecting), and Barbs (still collecting)

This is way, way way way in the future as we all well know, but I do have enough now for eight generations of both Holsteiners and Trotters! default smiley :d default smiley :d With extra pairings as well amazingly.
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By Asfridur, 18th August 2019 16:20:51
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Cabernet Blanc
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Camargue (rolling gain)
Current GP: 4832.52
Link to the Horse's Page: link
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By Asfridur, 18th August 2019 17:01:16
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Festa Teatrale
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Drum horse (rolling gain)
Current GP: 2310.18
Link to the Horse's Page: link
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By Asfridur, 18th August 2019 17:04:18
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Hajiriy
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Shagya (from old GP stock) (a 4th gen)
Current GP: 606.17
Link to the Horse's Page: link
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By Retired breeder, 18th August 2019 17:10:25
Horses Wanted!

Breed-Mustang
pUrEbReD oNlY pLeAsEdefault smiley :)
Any coat colour, preferably the more common or least common, no inbetweeners! ( i mean you can but.... yeah... you guys know what i mean, right? tbh im just rambling nowdefault smiley xd)
Preferably adults! thanksdefault smiley ^)
By Retired breeder, 18th August 2019 17:11:00
dont know if thats how you do it, im new to NIB horsesdefault smiley :s
By Twinjodi, 18th August 2019 22:50:30
Kiko are you saying you want to start NIBbing Mustangs? The easiest thing to do is to look in the sales for under 5000 GP, if you're looking for Rolling Gain foundations (a higher gp) or under 352 GP for original foundations. Most NIBBers won't be likely to give up their stock so it's easier to just look for them.
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By Retired breeder, 26th August 2019 23:19:19
how do you become a nibber ?
I am knew to this too XD
By Retired breeder, 26th August 2019 23:26:34
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Can someone tell me how to nib ?

hey howrse can someone tell me how to nib
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By Retired breeder, 26th August 2019 23:28:12
i will be a unicorn nibber if someone will teach me how to nib XD
By Twinjodi, 27th August 2019 00:08:25
Vivian Horsegirl, it would be the same set of instructions for you as well. Easiest way is to look in the sales except you would be selecting unicorn as your search instead of just horse. The foal has to be foundation (no one before them besides Ouranus/Gaia or divine pairing) or be able to be traced back to having no repeat of parent/s.
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By Retired breeder, 27th August 2019 00:12:58
@TwinJodi, thanks!
By spattymac, 27th August 2019 00:21:10
When you say original foundations you mean a horse who's parents are Ouranos and Gaia correct?
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By Retired breeder, 27th August 2019 00:23:58
yes thats what it means
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