[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Twinjodi, 8th September 2019 22:18:58
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:A G1 - 001 M 4295.00 (subject to change)
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter
Current GP:4295.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=60508271

Our first second generation foal default smiley :d
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By Retired breeder, 9th September 2019 00:23:32

oh ok well i'm just starting this NIB think
By Retired breeder, 9th September 2019 00:24:29
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By Axel'sMommy, 9th September 2019 04:49:21
It's ok! The safest way to NIB is to buy your own foundations and breed them down the line. If you go back through the pages and look at the NIB entries, take a look at their family trees. You're welcome to look at Rainbow Sky listed under NIB Hano Unis as well. Their ancestors cannot show up more than once and you cannot have any disappeared horses in the line.
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By BRM, 9th September 2019 10:54:36


It happens, so you're good. It's always best to start with your own stock if you have any available. If you're buying stock, be sure to always check the family trees. Foundations are usually easy to find in sales because most players will name it as such.
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By Axel'sMommy, 10th September 2019 07:32:19
Just be careful to double check the horses parentage. Some people will label a horse "foundation" when it's not.
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By BRM, 10th September 2019 15:41:43


Very true. Players know they can make bank on foundies, especially OG.
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By Yankee Lady, 10th September 2019 17:39:59
Hope this doesn't get deleted. I maintain a collection of mostly OG Foundations (only have a few RG) for as many breeds as possible. Only sell to NIBers and at low price (PM me for the price list). Just look under my tab Sales / Sales - (name of breed). If the breed name is not there it means that I don't have any available AT THIS TIME. I'm always adding OGs as I am able to obtain them.

Has anyone noticed that when searching for OGs in Horse Sales (whether Direct or Auction) about all you see are Donkeys? Was trying to find foundations this morning and only found ONE OG and it was in the Auction. Hoping to get it but have to wait and see if anyone overbids me.

Anyone having OG foundations for sale please contact me, I am ALWAYS in the market for OGs of ALL breeds. Still support the NIB community as I can even though I no longer do NIB breeding. Doubt you can find cheaper prices anywhere than I charge no matter what I pay for them.
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By Twinjodi, 10th September 2019 23:02:44
This weekend Yankee Lady there was a LOT of Original foundations in the sales. I can't recall if they were for passes or equus though.

I will "third" the be careful as people will sometimes label their horses just to hopefully get more money, or don't understand what foundation is.
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By Yankee Lady, 11th September 2019 00:37:03
Unfortunately I wasn't able to get online this weekend, had other commitments. Just know there weren't any today. I always verify that they are really foundations before buying or bidding. You also can't go by the GP, there are a LOT of 350-351 GPs out there that have disappeared parents or just aren't foundations. I look for the GP first and then lot at the parents.

Have been in this game a LONG time, but it used to be a LOT simpler to find foundations then it is now of course. Especially the OGs.
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By Azhure, 11th September 2019 01:13:19
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So I know its not Sunday but I can't get online then.
RG GP updates

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Cynwrig
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): TB
Current GP: 3483.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54729781

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W4T0 Apollo
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): QH
Current GP: 3408.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54382433

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W1T0 Cennamara
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Connemara
Current GP: 3383.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54267975

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Qurion
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Quarter Pony
Current GP: 3504.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54814939

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Barb
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Barb
Current GP: 4855.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=60352066

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Novik
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Peruvian Paso
Current GP: 3399.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54348933


My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Foundation Vanner
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Gypsy Vanner
Current GP: 3525.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54914872

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Winter King
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Tennessee Walker
Current GP: 3504.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54816007

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Unicorn Icelandic Horse
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Icelandic Horse (Uni)
Current GP: 4317.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=58393903

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Lipizzan
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Lipizzan
Current GP: 4259.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=58120035

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Bravely Gaining W0T0
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Percheron
Current GP: 704.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=46732532

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Marry Me W0T0
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Drum Horse
Current GP: 2288.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=51784055

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: W0T0 Skedehs
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Kerry Bog (Uni) (Only if uni's are separate otherwise below is highest.)
Current GP: 3872.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=56437747

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Bottoms Up
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Kerry Bog
Current GP: 3892.85
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=56809416

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Camargue
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Camargue
Current GP: 4746.00
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=60015384


My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: In The Wilderness
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Paint Horse
Current GP: 3094.08
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=56932391
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By Azhure, 11th September 2019 01:22:27
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OG GP updates

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Fix
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Welsh
Current GP: 415.59
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=53947791

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: You
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Nokota
Current GP: 427.57
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=55061119
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By BRM, 11th September 2019 11:45:02
Does anyone here breed OG TBs?
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By Yankee Lady, 11th September 2019 21:44:54
MoonRider1691,

That is one of the breeds I used to NIB. Are you looking for some foundations or something? Have some still. Or you want to sell some? Also have some foundation studs available for coverings.

YL
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By BRM, 11th September 2019 21:59:41


I came across a gen 1 foal REALLY cheaply and would like to hand it off to another breeder if possible. Lol, still have a raging case of Morganitis.
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By Yankee Lady, 11th September 2019 22:59:17
I also have a few 1st gens if you want to send it this way. Just don't get a lot of them.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 12th September 2019 07:23:31


If you sort by genetics so it goes like 352, 351, 350, etc, that helps with the donkey problem, I've found
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By Retired breeder, 12th September 2019 16:32:50
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I scored one filly off the direct sales on Monday!

I was wondering who else on here is NIB Quarters, those are the only ones I am interested in right now. I actually put up two of my horses who are not NIB in the sales, might as well get started now and clean out the nonNIBs from my farm.

Like I said, I'd like to know who else is doing Quarter Horses, as I am only able to do one generation right now (Thank you Twinjodi for your help in that matter and helping extend my generations default smiley ^))
By Retired breeder, 12th September 2019 20:54:55
I have just started a NIB unicorn team (for aussies) if anyone is interested in joining, you do not need to have any foundation aussie unis, just knowledge of the game and NIBs. PM me if you're interested in joining!!!
By Yankee Lady, 12th September 2019 21:06:22
F l i c k e r,

Actually I find just making the species something like riding horse, pegasus, draft horse, or the like I get rid of ALL the donkeys.
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By Hopeless♡Romantic, 13th September 2019 20:58:25
I have some foundies that I am looking to sell, so let me know if you wan them I have nokotas, and barbs and some others!
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By Twinjodi, 14th September 2019 01:06:32
Good luck Gunner's Mommy!
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By haffyfan, 14th September 2019 09:37:41
This thread is not for advertising your sales. Thank you
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By Twinjodi, 15th September 2019 15:49:43
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Cherry F 4592.80¹ (Name subject to change)
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Holsteiner
Current GP: 4592.80 (First generation 401*)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=60293733
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