[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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For FM Nasty the number afterwards should have been a 1 not a 0, always started generations with the number 1.
Yankee Lady
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Having the generation number in front and the generationAL number in back, made it much easier. Otherwise the numbering system could get very complex. I've seen horses with numbers like 1.5.16.3.48.16, etc. Putting in the number for EACH generation in a horses background can get VERY long by the time you are at the 10th generation or so. And there is a limit to how big a name can get.
Yankee Lady
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@Final Countdown, this is also the system I use. The ID tags are in the howrse's url: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=19974494 The numbers here at the end are unique to that howrse.

I personally use google sheets to keep track of everything, including an equation to calculate all the things I need to do with each horse so I can glance and see how "complete" the howrse is before I breed them. I also back up/download the sheets every so often just in case. When I'm done with a horse, I move it to another breeding farm.
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By Retired breeder, 12th October 2019 19:49:10
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Hi i’m New to NIBing I am hoping to NIB welsh ponies
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:Cabernet Bisou
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Carmargue
Current GP: 4922.09 (2nd generation)
Link to the Horse's Page:link
Asfridur
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Milad
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Shagya (old GP stock)
Current GP: 615.24 (a 4th generation)
Link to the Horse's Page: link
Asfridur
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Does anyone have tips for bluping foundations that have already had their training bars full? I'm having the absolute worst time trying to win competitions with them, and would love to see them bluped. Messages are welcome! Thank you!
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By Retired breeder, 22nd October 2019 22:50:27
I want to sell a Camargue colt that has Ouranos and Gaia as its parents. He has a GP in the 4000's. Here's a link: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=59992619
I'm not sure how much a horse like this can be sold for. If someone can give me an estimate or a link to somewhere where I can find this information, that would be great! (I have tried looking but no luck).
Thank you! default smiley :)
If anyone has some Shagya Foundations that they want to sell, please contact me. I am always in the market for almost any OG foundations but especially Shagyas at this time. Thanks.
Yankee Lady
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Where did everyone go?
Yankee Lady
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@Yankee Lady I think their probably busy with the promo.

I try and play a little, but we'll be moving shortly so I'm super busy packing
Asfridur
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*flash back to 3 full property turn overs* .....I don't wanna talk about it.....
BRM
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Work is busy. Taking care of just the promo horses right now >.<
Twinjodi
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Hey guys, I'm not a NIB breeder but I have some unwanted Gaia horses.
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If any are Morgans, you can send them my way.
BRM
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If any are Lipizzans I'd like one or two
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By Retired breeder, 9th November 2019 16:50:54
hey guys, i bidded on some Nokota foals named "Gaia" and "Ouranos" and there bred by Gaia and Ouranos. so do y'all think i could start NIB Breeding them ?
By Retired breeder, 9th November 2019 21:36:44
Hello I own to Nokota foals, named Gaia and Ouranos, do y'all think I could NIB them ?
By Retired breeder, 9th November 2019 21:52:26

Hey it's me (Dreamer12) I sold those foals <3 hey Buddy
@VivianHorseGirl, I could not find the foals that you had bid on as you haven't won them yet.

But if they are Ouranus x Gaia pairing they are the start of their "breed" so yes you can NIB them. If you breed them with another Ouranus x Gaia parent, you will have an offspring which would be a First Generation foal.
Twinjodi
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I was wondering the same. I was sad to see us go so far down in the event page. I kept thinking of asking the same lol. I've been working on the promo and adding things to some of my foundies. I'm being lazy because I REALLLLLLY don't want to even bother with comps right now so I'm just training some and figuring out who needs what and I'm redoing my system for my unnamed/no GA yet horses.
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By Retired breeder, 10th November 2019 14:11:12

ok and i probably will get them, i have 11 hours before the Auction ends and i bidded the highest on both.
By Retired breeder, 11th November 2019 01:15:49
okay never mind someone stole them
I just put a Paint Foundy up in auction (daily objective requirement) if anyone wants to try to get him.
Jennifer Rice
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Hey everyone I have some stallions up for Stud that are NIB or 1st Gen. does anyone else have studs?

thank you
Emma Haven
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