[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By stryker777337, 20th December 2019 21:55:10
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Is anyone breeding Trakhners right now?
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By are37, 21st December 2019 04:52:14

I have some (10+) 350 GP foundies. PM me if anyone wants some of them - I have Haflinger, TB, Arabian, QH, PSH, Lipizzan, Shire (with covers left), Chincotegue pony, and probably some other ones. I haven't bothered putting them in sales. They're in my Trophy Rares tab if you want to look through them.
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By Emma Haven, 21st December 2019 15:48:59


I was just getting ready to sell my drum filly she still has all of her covers and is NIB
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By Forest Queen, 24th December 2019 03:06:19
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Goodness it sure has been a long time since I've played this. Lots of changes since I was last on. Will have to revamp my stables and map out a new NIB program. It's been many, many years since I had the first NIB Arabian to a Star.

If anyone is looking for any stud fees on some original foundations please let me know as I may have something tucked away in the stables.

-FQ
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By stryker777337, 25th December 2019 00:48:59
Is it appropriate to list sales here or is there a different forum for selling foundies?
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By gaff, 25th December 2019 01:09:33
I came here to find out if the issue of pastry horse foals has been addressed - as in, is each foal considered new genetic material, coming from divines, or would only one foal from each pair of divines be considered useable for each breeding program..? Thanks for any insight!
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By Twinjodi, 25th December 2019 16:58:38
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Strykeer777337, while it's not appropriate to list sales here you can always list it as a question/offer. Say if you have Ponies that you want to go to NIBBers, take a look in my ____ tab as I want them to go to a home they'll be useful!

gaff, from what I understood is that while each foal would be considered a 'first generation' , foals from the same parents (identified by ID number in their url) should not be bred together. Someone else chime in.

Happy holidays everyone!
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By Jennifer Rice, 30th December 2019 22:44:58



Tried sending you a PM default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 4th January 2020 22:10:57
You can try now
By Asfridur, 5th January 2020 16:58:06

Still doing Drums... the slow way


Belated Happy New Year to you all.
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By dougaldoggie, 6th January 2020 06:55:13
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I have some 350GP foundations in a tab (no GA/RC coats) and some in my GA/RC coats tabs. I'm not playing as much now, so if any NIBers here are after some new foundation stock, send me a PM!
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By kooldogz7, 8th January 2020 01:53:53
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I have some foundies if you are interested in them. I thought about breeding them but with all the other horses I'm doing its not going to happen. So I would rather give them to someone who would like them.
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By westernsky, 8th January 2020 03:36:20
Just bought a KWPN stallion to go with my mare... I know I posted something similar to this a page or so ago but if anyone wants to work together on KWPNs I'm open default smiley :)
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By westernsky, 8th January 2020 03:37:04
(I'm breeding OG KWPNs btw haha)
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By Forest Queen, 8th January 2020 22:59:31
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I have this Canadian Horse mare that is an original foundation horse (350 GP) that is 100 BLUP and wearing tears/wand. I'm hoping I can find someone with a foundation that I could get a covering from or if a hardcore collector of the originals wants her I might be able to work out a deal (she has a retired coat though so I'd rather breed her and keep her). Willing to offer one of the twins or both to someone focused on the breed.
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By vag111, 9th January 2020 19:52:44
If anyone is looking for Foundies, I've been snagging some in the auctions lately and would be glad to pass them along to someone who could use them! I was into NIB several years ago before my account was reset, but decided to take another path this time around.
I also have several 100 BLUP Foundies from a few months ago when I rejoined Howrse if anyone is looking for coverings. While I'm not into breeding them myself anymore, I'd be glad to help with other people's projects! Feel free to send me a PM.
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By stryker777337, 9th January 2020 21:18:15
I'm considering passing on my foundation Arabian horses, I've got 2, 350 gp and 1 of the newer leveled up ones. They are in my others tab, give them a look and make me an offer. �
Also I'm wanting to focus nib gypsy banners, I've got 4 stallions and 4 mares I'd love to work with someone who is focusing on them, if you are please pm me.
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By Twinjodi, 11th January 2020 23:06:50
Anyone else thinking to do the "new" Newfies? I of course am going to get a group lol.

Please welcome the ∩εwfiε ∩ατið∩ ^_^ to to my breeding programs.

∞ƒrεnchiε ƒεdεra†iðn∞ - Shisei's and I's French Trotter breeding team and affix.

╫ðlstεinεr ╫ðrdε - My Holsteiner breeding and affix. I am looking for a partner default smiley :) Currently naming the first generations after Cattle breeds.

Çαmαrgûe Çøαlîτîøn - My friend Shisei's and I's side project breeding Camargue. We are looking for others default smiley :) The foundations are named after gemstones.

ßαrß ßrðτhεrhððÐ - My Barb breeding and affix. All horses will have Skyrim: Elderscrolls names that are kept in the program.

∩εwfiε ∩ατið∩ - My Newfie breeding program. I am looking for a partner!

These are all the "new" foundations.
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By Forest Queen, 13th January 2020 06:01:36
My NIB GP Entry from Original (350 GP) stock
Horse's Name: F1 NIB 505.68
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Canadian
Current GP: 505.68
Link to the Horse's Page: Click here
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By foxy3000123, 14th January 2020 16:38:29
Hi all - not sure if anyone will remember me now but I used to breed NIB paints back in 2011.
I've been dabbling with my foundies again seeing as my previous 5th gen is now not even anywhere near the GP of a 1st gen. Has anyone else been noticing funny skillset swaps or do I just have a glitchy foal?

Same parents but the filly has the normal paint speed/dressage/gallop top skills and the colt goes speed/gallop/dressage

Any ideas?
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By Jennifer Rice, 15th January 2020 23:08:06


I won a filly in the Ice Mine, so went ahead and found a foundie stallion in the sales default smiley :) I may run them along with my QH NIBs
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By Blιиd Sтαg, 16th January 2020 01:50:25
I have a male Newfoundland pony with 5212.00 GP.
I might blup him. Would anybody be interested in covers? He's a foal at the moment. Not sure if blup would matter.
500e per cover? Not sure what to price it as. He's a foundation and I can't sell him so I just decided to make a use for him
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By Emma Haven, 16th January 2020 15:30:51


I would!!!!

I am sending you a PM
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By midnight stargazer, 16th January 2020 20:36:38
I don't have the patience to breed NIB horses although I've collected quite a few foundations.
If you are looking for a NIB Camargue stallion, I have a fully BLUPed foundation stallion with 4746.00gp which I am more than happy to give coverings with, just PM me. This is him.
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By Twinjodi, 18th January 2020 21:14:22
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Took a look and that is indeed interesting. How far apart were they bred? I'm wondering if it could be a glitch as both parents have the speed/dressage/gallop in both skills and genetics yet too.

I'd be interested in if you bred another one if it turned out "normal"

I honestly haven't been paying attention to the GP on my new ones >.< so I couldn't even tell you.


Also just to let people know, most NIBBers won't want to breed outside of their group as their is a chance of that horse disappearing and it is considered dangerous to breed outside of the collective if you're building generations. So some smaller projects might be interested but most of us have been burned in the past using outside horses so stay away from it now unless we own them or someone we know/trust owns them that breed with us.
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