[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Rymskynx, 16th December 2009 15:15:44
It seems to be that as the highest GP howrses (18 stars for instance) get higher the GP gain available when breeding low GP howrses (like foundies) gets higher.
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By Retired breeder, 16th December 2009 16:46:10
if anyone has anyCAnadian stallions send my a message because i have a 100 blup mare in need of a covering

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:Leap from illousions Pulling Strings NIBs
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):Canadian horse
Current GP (foals without completed games do not count):355.91
Link to the Horse's Page:http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=8839327&message=vieillissement
My first NIB!
By Retired breeder, 16th December 2009 17:19:38
What are foundation horses??? I'm totally clueless!!! But I am looking for a female, cherry bay, purebred, PSH!! Doesn't matter what it is,NIB, low skill, high skill, starred, not starred, but it has to be over 1yr 6?8mnts
By Retired breeder, 16th December 2009 17:19:57
PM me please!!
By Retired breeder, 16th December 2009 17:58:34
► horseyheaven77: Foundation Horses are those who have Ouranos and Gaïa for parents in their family tree. Here is an example with my Russian Don Horse.
By Retired breeder, 16th December 2009 18:02:23
@Jeteska: I had a large increase like that in my 2nd gen as well.

Regarding the earlier question about older horses producing higher GP foals - I bred my NIB uni to the same NIB uni stallion and the foal I had first had a higher GP than the 2nd one when the mare was older. Granted, the first foal WAS a uni, and the second wasn't, but I just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. The difference was about 0.5 base GP.
By sammianne, 16th December 2009 18:17:42
I really need a foundie Appy stallion to cover one of my foundie mares. I'll pay extra if he's fully blupped.
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By Retired breeder, 16th December 2009 18:45:12
Casbar: cool! I'll take a look and pm you if I find something!
By Forest Queen, 16th December 2009 19:44:40
sammianne PM Loti, she has a few stallions in her herd default smiley (y)

thank you bluetempest, I picked up the guy you put up for me default smiley :-)) such a nice price....I feel like I stole him default smiley :$
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By Retired breeder, 16th December 2009 20:14:29
Forest Queen - how much do you want for your Friesian stud?
By Forest Queen, 16th December 2009 20:23:21
PM me reasonable offers default smiley (y)
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By Storms Ransome, 16th December 2009 21:57:10
I'm starting a secret project. But I need help from players who are NIB. PM me if you are interested to know what default smiley :)

Storm
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By sammianne, 17th December 2009 00:12:17
Forest Queen - Thanks, I did a few days ago and have not heard back.
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By Forest Queen, 17th December 2009 00:13:54
She is on today. I will remind her next time she gets back to me. Go ahead and send another PM maybe she lost it default smiley (lol)
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By Storms Ransome, 17th December 2009 00:47:18
Hey so my secret project may not be a secret because other players may be doing it, but I still feel like calling it a sercret default smiley :) so keep that in mind default smiley ;)
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By bluetempest, 17th December 2009 02:22:00
Anyone know when the stats at the top will be update sort of anxious to see the results.
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By Forest Queen, 17th December 2009 02:33:18
It was supposed to be done on Monday sometime.....so I don't know default smiley (lol)
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By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 02:50:02
I am a Hanoverian NIB breeder default smiley :) But with some weird limits. lol. No horses with GP over 360 allowed.
By Forest Queen, 17th December 2009 03:14:29
Odd indeed thoroughbred default smiley (lol). Do you only breed the first 2 generations then or do you only breed to outside horses of 360 GP or lower?
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By Yankee Lady, 17th December 2009 06:00:26
horseyheaven77,
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Check out 1TM Freebie under my tab "PSH for Sale" and make me an offer if interested.
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She is a foundation cherry bay PSH mare, 6 years 2 months old, 351.20 GP, 222.73% skills, in training with 18.27 BLUP, and has Morpheus Arms and Chronos Timer on her. If interested make reasonable offer. Nice mare but I am getting out of PSHes.
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By Forest Queen, 17th December 2009 08:46:32
*sigh* I am attempting to speed train another one of my arabians but Sasha has burnt me out default smiley :p default smiley (lol)......*sigh* he will be done soon enough default smiley (lol)
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By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 12:45:24
All my NIB are for sale in Private (500 Equus)... I'm quitting Howrse for now and don't want to waste my horses !
By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 13:05:29
Every horses have been sale ! Thank you and see you one day ! default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 15:59:40
Well I'm excited. Just bought 8 Standardbred Foundation foals and 1 foundation Throroughbred foal. Actually get these guys to 351.2. Yeah. Anyone doing NIB Standardbreds?
By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 17:01:06
hi. my wife said to look at this topic. I breed NIB arabians for now. I will be selling off the majority of my foundation some are 100BLUP already. I will be switching to a different breed soon so if anyone is interested in them take a look and pm me.
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