[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Storms Ransome, 17th December 2009 19:55:30
So for everyone who is wondering, my secret was I wanted to start an Appaloosa NIB 0GP project. So now the cat is out of the bag.

I will also be continueing with NIB Appaloosas as well. Just thought I might expand my horizon a little default smiley ;)
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By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 20:38:56
I got mustang herds up to my ears now storm default smiley :d
By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 23:49:50
I have serval NIB for sale
By Retired breeder, 17th December 2009 23:52:21
*sigh* finally I think I have plenty of connies for my low Ridge NIB affix. Now to finish blupping all those bad boys and give my horsecreek horses some love lol. default smiley :)
By ᴅᴇɴᴀʟɪ, 17th December 2009 23:54:02
I have 1 NIB paso foal, 1 NIB mustang, and 1 NIB Barb for sale...
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By vag111, 18th December 2009 00:52:38
*sigh* These wins are impossible. I might just have to go with bolding all skills and winning as many comps as I can for these horses.
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By Storms Ransome, 18th December 2009 01:33:22
I'm glad Ellen, and so glad that I could help you with giving you my horses default smiley ;) Good luck with everything default smiley ;) PM me, if you need anything and I can help you default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 01:50:54
Hi I am looking for NIB Quarter Horses, Australian Ponys, and Standardbreds. I prefer them to be older with full or most training. I dont really care about BLUP, just training and NIB. If anybody has any they dont want let me know. Thanks.
By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 03:24:34
please pm me with horses you have for sale....thanks.
By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 04:58:50
I forget who it was...but someone here mentioned using spreadsheets to keep their NIBs organized. I don't suppose that someone could maybe take a screen shot or a link to a sample of your spread sheet?

I am thinking I would like to try something similar but it sure would be helpful to see how someone else has it organized.
By Rymskynx, 18th December 2009 05:06:56
The excel person was me I believe and I do have screenshots up on photobucket, I'll send you a link Alassíeℓ.
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By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 05:12:24
Awesome!
Thank you Rymskynx! I'd love to get my horses organized before I really start seriously training & breeding them.
By Rymskynx, 18th December 2009 05:13:50
I have certainly found being organized to be extremely helpful. Everyone's strategy for oranizing is deferent, but finding something that works for you is extremely helpful. default smiley (y)
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By Yankee Lady, 18th December 2009 06:00:55
Rymskynx,
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Which genealogy program do you use? There are so many out there and many definitely wouldn't work for horses, or are too expensive, or too complicated, etc. etc. Would really like to know what you are using.
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Everyone,
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Tip on comps. I have always found that I have a better chance of winning when the horse has a Tub of Grease which is found in the box and lasts for 4 calendar days. It can be hard to find, sometimes have better luck than others. But another player, sorry can't remember name, told me a little trick that does seem to increase the odds of finding one. One day give the horse an apple and DO NOT put it in its box at all that day. The next day put in the box for several hours and you often have a Tub of Grease. Had a horse that I just couldn't find a Tub for no matter what I tried. I tried the apple trick and the next day had a Tub in the box. But they do add bonuses to help you win. When I have a Tub I cram in as many comps as I can each day I have the Tub, watching horse's energy and health carefully so I don't overwork him/her. Does seem to make a difference.
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By Rymskynx, 18th December 2009 06:12:03
I don't actually use a genealogy program Yankee Lady, just microsoft excel. I just organized the spreadsheets to meet me needs. I can send you a link to the screenshots I have up on photobucket if you'd like to see them. default smiley (y)
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By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 06:28:44
I just had a Friesian foal above 360! Will be submitting on Sunday for approval default smiley :k
By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 06:43:28
I have a first gen hano mare that I bought, and for some reason, she is just pulling off all the wins! It's great, but at the same time, none of my others are really pulling it off LOL. i guess it's a little give and take. Just my little update.

Rymskynx, I would love to see how you have your spreadsheets organized, I'm still having a hard time with all this :P
By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 09:31:52
I'm looking for connemara stallion to get my mare pregnant. Mare is 100 blup and bolded with all but trot. Since the mare is foundation it would be nice to find foundie stallion too default smiley :) PM your offer so we can get to the business. I put this here cos I'm just lazy and didn't write to all connie nibbers default smiley :-))
By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 12:01:58
A horse is a horse !! i dontget all this xoths and nibbs
By bluetempest, 18th December 2009 12:25:57
Xanthos is a mythical horse in real life and you can read up on him. On the game they are divine horse that can give you gift if you stroke them. NIB(non inbreed) in the game it is just what its described at the top. If you want to know more about Ouranos & Gaia and what inbreeding in real life you can read up on that too.
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By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 16:58:33
I started some comps that are NIB related... I don't know if that helps, but I guess we will have to see. If you are interested in when they are running and what breeds, PM me and I will send you the details. I know this is a problem because I have a RDH that I have been trying to get past 6 wins for about 5 years (Howrse years). Maybe if we can band together with these comps we can get our horses BLUPPED?
By mike012345, 18th December 2009 19:02:14
I breed NIB pure Brumbies default smiley :)
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By aml919, 18th December 2009 19:41:44
I also use excel speadsheets to keep organized. I have a one for horses in training so I can keep track of who needs what. When training is done & all skills are bolded + 100 BLUP, the get moved to my Breeding Sheet to be matched up with a mate. Once they are bred, they are marked so I know not to use them again (I also move them to a new breeding farm on howrse so I don't have to hunt through them to find the ones I'm still working on).

I have separate tabs for each breed I'm working with, but since I concentrate on Arabs, they have the more complicated spreadsheet. And I have different sections for each generation. Since I don't breed any horse more than once (for my own use) I don't need to keep track of individual pedigree, it makes record keeping easier, in my opinion.

I"m not sure how to get screenshots up on howrse & I don't use Photobucket, so I don't think I'll be able to show you how my sheets work, but I'd be more than happy to go into more details if anyone wants me to.
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By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 21:01:32
Blinkyli ..check out the following breeders for connie stallion coverings..kaliko99, HYDEIST, and myself. I believe kaliko has a rather huge selection of 100 BLUP foundie stallions to choose from. PM any one of us we are all pretty willing to help folks. ( I did not name others as to be honest I do not know how they handle their coverings). I know kaliko,myself and HYDEIST have always been pretty willing for connie covers. I have a smaller selection of foundies than Kaliko has as I sold her the majority of my fully blupped foundations from my horsecreek NIB lines. Seriously hehe she has a lot default smiley :).
By Retired breeder, 18th December 2009 21:02:58
As far as keeping track of my horses I recently implemented my own little breeder book as I call it. My husband gets logistics books for me and the columns are set up perfectly for keeping track of who is and isn;t blupped and stuff.
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