[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 22nd December 2009 15:54:32
**Must resist urge to breed NIB PSH's!!**
By Retired breeder, 22nd December 2009 15:55:29
9 more days to go to see GP!! Woo-hoo! My poor Friesians are feeling neglected right now.
By Retired breeder, 22nd December 2009 18:03:23
Im going to breed NIB Aussies...YAY lol I already have foundy male and one female!
By Retired breeder, 22nd December 2009 18:54:39
I also picked up a foundie IH colt really cheap. Unfortunately he's already been gamed, and they were not done correctly, so I'll be willing to let him go super cheap for anyone who needs one.
By Retired breeder, 22nd December 2009 19:30:47
I am just getting into breeding NIB howrses. Does anybody have any foundation male howrses for sale? Preferably trained and BLUPPed. I can pay 10000e for him.
By Retired breeder, 22nd December 2009 19:31:59
Preferably of the Barb or Irish Hunter breed. I also need a female of the same breed, preferably BLUPPed and trained also.
By nlriver, 22nd December 2009 23:04:18
Just finished with a foundation chinco who I plan on using as a pass horse. The ponies on here do not like me at all, he kept going overweight (and probably still is) :P

Will see how many wins he gets. Hoping for a few considering how many comps he's in.

And now back to my main breeding program. I have 70 foals still to be gamed....
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By Retired breeder, 22nd December 2009 23:29:03
I got a Foundation Mustang how much would that be worth to you lot default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 01:30:43
riverdoe: that's why I'm not doing them default smiley xd

I used to do some Chinco breeding, and that always drove me crazy!
By nlriver, 23rd December 2009 01:48:15
LoloJean: I used to breed Australian pony unicorns and BLUPping them was an absolute nightmare. Every single one used to colic and I could never get them trained on target. It's part of the reason I am now sticking to horses, unless I need passes default smiley (lol)

I gamed a shetland pony on Caballow, and it colicked twice on me and almost died halfway through games. Very much not touching them again.

I mean no offense to anyone who breeds ponies on this game, and if anyone does have a good training program for ponies, especially when dealing with how much to feed them, then I would really, really like to hear about it.

Anyway, Foundie Chinco now has 12 wins. I wish I could fully bold him but he's now almost 24 years old, but I will be very happy if I could get him BLUPped. He had been really badly trained when I bought him with nothing bolded and no wins at 16 years old. He hadn't even had any rides done at all.

Oh well, will check back in the morning and I am hoping that he will have more wins then.
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 02:08:23
On average with my ponies they get the usual groom,salt, and water then a lesson .. after the first lesson I give them 13lbs hay and 88 ounces of feed then I proceed to game/train until they are as close to zero as possible then I stroke and give a turnip.. almost forgot I make use of my carrots to get in as much training as possible in a day. The feed my horses need varies from 79ounces to 96 ounces once lessons are started. The 88 ounces is a good medium. The horses do not go over or underweight usually.
Anywho though... I am debating on something and was wondering if you guys could help me out.. I am trying to decide on whether or not to age a few horses out ( they have arms) or to try and sell them for a pass each. All of them are at 100 BLUP and are NIB connies. I have done all the breeding I want for myself from them. Once has a nice GA coat and a couple other BM items. My question is this do you think I could get a pass or two for them?? They are in my 100 BLUP tab names are RoxUrSox, Blue flame, and Notre Dame. I am just not sure what to do. ( If I sell them I will only sell to another NIB breeder as I have used them for my program. ). Advice is welcome. I just know I am needing a few passes atm.
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 04:44:34
My QH's have been doing awful as far as competitions. Any suggestions?

My hanos are doing...eh, going downhill as far as winning. It's getting discouraging, but at the same time, I'm loving this new challenge.

Once again, I have a bunch of founations in my other horses tab, they have (F) after their names, most are untouched foals, that need good homes! :] PM me if interested.
By bluetempest, 23rd December 2009 06:18:24
I have three immortal connies and wondering if anyone want them. Thinking about passes for them though.
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 06:53:51
Don't worry matersalad I'm sure things will get better for your Hanoverians!
By Forest Queen, 23rd December 2009 08:20:08
I have so many foundations that aren't my breed default smiley xd

Anyone?
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 09:15:43
Talking of Foundations and NIB horses, I have one for sale if anyone wants to look at her. Her name is Pumpkin and she is perfect for NIB breeding, and has 11 passes and 2 cards of bm items on her. I also have an NIB stallion called Marble.
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 09:52:20
I still have to wait one more day to get into private sales default smiley :@ But when I do, I'll put some connies for sale since I decided to stick just barb nibbing right now. And of course I will be buing some barbs after selling others. So all connie nibbers out there, keep your eyes open. If I have time I'll start advertising tonight. I will not sell all my connies but at least 2 must go right away.
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 10:53:06
lively: I'd go for the pass, personally. I can always get cash some other way, but passes are harder to come by, unless you really need the cash.
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 13:36:09
Hey all,
Does anyone know who has the 357+ mustang that is list as the highest GP?
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 13:39:09
Thanks for the answer lolo.. I actually have 4 fully blupped that I am going to try and get a pass or two from. I figure since all the hard stuff is done and most of them have Morpheus arms then they should be worth a pass or two.
By nlriver, 23rd December 2009 13:40:59
O.O I just checked that foundation Chinco pony I was BLUPping last night....

Pony Esonian Foundie

I hope that link works. But he now has 100BLUP and he got all his wins! I know he's not fully bolded but he's now 24 and there's no way I can get him to that. I am incredibly surprised by this and if any NIB Chinco pony breeder would like a covering, PM me and let me know.

Now back to my Morgans....
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By nlriver, 23rd December 2009 13:42:11
Oh, I forgot!

MA horses usually sell for at least 500 and 1 pass. I've had a few that have done so in the past. I don't know if you'll be able to get more for them, but you'll at least get 1 pass.
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 13:43:59
I am confused...
How can you breed horses with Ouranous and Gaia for parents?
Surely the foals will have the horses as parents???
I am very confused, so if you can explain it to me, please PM me
By always, 23rd December 2009 14:57:21
livelyblueeyes - be careful if you sell your older horses, as if the person you sell them to deletes their game they can disappear. I know it was mentioned that if you are the breeder of the horses they don't, but looking through my production I noticed many of my long sold foals have disappeared. Also, even if they do stick around on a Retired Breeder's account (which they sometimes do for long periods of time) Howrse does a database clean up like twice a year which flushes out the horses of retired breeders, making new disappeared horses. So just be mindful of this if you do decide to sell them.
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 16:14:19
Yep livelyblueyes, i would be more inclined to age up for the pass, then you know they wont dissapear for as long as you stay on the game default smiley :)
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