[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 25th October 2017 19:30:53
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Hello everyone!
after taking a break from the game i have decided to return and for the first time ever breed NIB! my breed of choice at the moment are quarter horses. I'm wondering if their are any groups out there who are taking on new members? not necessarily as breeding partners but to discuss things with, i'm new to trying the NIB thing so i'm really just looking for someone who would be willing to answer any questions i may have along the way default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 26th October 2017 01:15:27
Jissy5469 - If you'd ever need you can PM me and I can try to help
By Retired breeder, 26th October 2017 09:37:56
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Just bred my first NIB foal! I'm really glad they changed things up with the foundies giving them higher gp. First foal and im already at 283* default smiley :-))
By Moon Unicorn345, 26th October 2017 10:26:47
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For all you NIB breeders out there I have a method to search for rolling gain foundations. If you are looking for foals, search for 0 skills (for under 8 months old), purebred, and GP's of over 2500 and a maximum of the price you are willing to pay for them. If you're searching for adults, search for purebreds with GP's of over 2500 and the maximum price you want to pay. I use this quite a bit and I recently have gotten some foundation foals for under 4000e. Hope this helps anybody searching for RG foundies!
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By ꜱʜᴀʜᴇᴇʙɪ, 27th October 2017 00:07:13
This sounds like a fun challenge! Going to start playing with this with free time!

Though I have a question or two.
Is there a list someone in this topic with the highest GP for each breed so far?
Or is the list on the original post updated every so often?
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 27th October 2017 00:45:39


It's up there in the main post thing.



And yeah... (': Whoever the mod is that's supposed to update the list hasn't in a month ish.
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By Retired breeder, 27th October 2017 01:07:46
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my first book of monsters horse i hope to get the rest of them over the rest of this event
By Asfridur, 28th October 2017 08:54:23
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That's super lucky Comatose. I had to use so many BOM's on prepod to get that one. Nice going default smiley (7)

I've bred my final NIB Russian Don uni - a 4th gen.
Out of foundies so she'll be the last one.
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By Retired breeder, 28th October 2017 14:51:04

It doesn't matter which. My 2 stallions are the new foundies. I just need a mare or two to start me off.
By Retired breeder, 28th October 2017 18:04:46
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I actually just got quite a few from the sales. I got a female for only 5,000e!

So now I am looking possibly for NIB Paints or Quarter Ponies.
By ꜱʜᴀʜᴇᴇʙɪ, 29th October 2017 00:16:32
Thank you eriathwen! Haven't been in the topic before, so didnt know if it was or not.
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By Retired breeder, 29th October 2017 01:56:47
is it one of the more rare ones?
I guess i didnt catch rarity on the BOMs
By Asfridur, 29th October 2017 07:53:30

Seems to be among the top 2 rare ones. The other is Newt.

The fact you got it on a foundie is perfect default smiley (l)
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By Asfridur, 29th October 2017 07:58:42
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Vatinka
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Russian Don Uni (from old GP stock)
Current GP: 636.94
Link to the Horse's Page:the uni
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By lbenedict15, 29th October 2017 12:29:23
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Quantum
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Holsteiner (rolling gain)
Current GP: 3178.33
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=54081067
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By Retired breeder, 29th October 2017 18:16:27
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I got the mummy on my second one.

I have complete sets of the magic hat and bewitched pumpkins on foundies. the medallion and book of monsters are whats missing.
By Retired breeder, 29th October 2017 18:44:58
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I did this yesterday and it worked! Thank you Moon Unicorn345!
By Retired breeder, 29th October 2017 22:19:18
Hello. I am not new to howrse but my account is new and i wanna try to breed fjords for cuting and then get some paints for berral racing.

I have bred horses before specifically to not be inbred but i never looked into their entire ancectory to prove it. Now i want to get true non inbred horses.

I currently have 2 starter fjords at 6 months. What is the best schedule to get them al the way up to breeding age (10 years)

For when i stary the paint lines what is the best schedule for them. And who is willing to sell a pair of paint horses to help me get started?

I am not breeding to compete against other breeders. Only to make my own horses good in comps. I do not strive to be the best.
By Rowen, 3rd November 2017 19:33:01
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Okay been gone for like forever and everyone has been busy. Trying to come back and start off where I left off with my horses what has changed for competing with NIB arabs since I've been gone?

I noticed there is a check box so you can choose types of comps now is that any help?
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By Retired breeder, 4th November 2017 04:18:53
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Oh Rowen - a lot has chanced. Their GPs are now rolling gain and its made comps nearly impossible for me to do with these low gen and foundies
By Asfridur, 4th November 2017 08:48:56
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I'm slowly getting to terms with the fact that 100% BLUP is impossible on the low GP NIB's. Even with a filler and a ton of BM items it's becoming more and more impossible. You need friends to fill all other empty spots in the comp to win it now.
It's is so very frustrating, so I'm leaning towards finally accepting that 100% BLUP is only doable on the rolling gains, and even those can be a challenge from time to time.

Still I refuse to abandon my 350 GP projects. I just have to accept I cannot take them all to 100 any more. It's sad but there it is.
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By Rowen, 4th November 2017 19:25:44
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It sounds like maybe we need to work together so we can have enough horses to fill the class so our horses have a fighting chance. I am still getting wins with my first second and third gens but it's much harder with the foundies. My stock was bred three years ago so I'm a little behind where everyone else is breeding wise but I don't want to give up on them.

We used to do Comping together in groups does anyone still do that?

If so I would be interested in helping. I have a huge barn of horses that can be fillers if needed
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By Rowen, 4th November 2017 19:26:23
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The horse I'm working now is two wins away from being 100 BLUP so I still have hope it will happen
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By Rowen, 4th November 2017 19:51:20
I think we are going to have to go that route to make it work. I keep getting seconds and thirds but not getting firsts


So close I have 5 at 100 BLUP but they haven't been bred yet need some males for my females probably going to have to use a bolt to even things up.
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