[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 2nd May 2017 11:04:41
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Making a list of all NIB breeders was such a good idea. Thank a lot!default smiley ;)
By Asfridur, 2nd May 2017 11:45:09
Thanks both.

Absolutely you can use it how every you want to Axel'sMommy,.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 2nd May 2017 20:27:29
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I forgot to tell y'all but I switched from Standardbreds to Hackneys.

And thank you Asfridur! I'm going to post this in my forum also.
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By kooldogz7, 3rd May 2017 05:44:02


What a great idea! Thanks Asfridur!

I'm also working on Nokota's and Gypsy Vanners as well, but my focus is mainly on Curlies for now. default smiley :)
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By Asfridur, 3rd May 2017 07:09:12
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Thanks for the update you guys.
I've updated my list (alterations made in spoiler below)

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abitude
- Drums
- Lippizaner
- Welsh
- Shire


Asfridur
- Canadian
- Drums
- Russian Don unis
- Shagya
- Trakhener unis


Adivinanza
- Standardbred


Axel'sMommy
- Hanoverian


boywithhorse
- Brumby


Comatose
- Akhal Teke
- Gypsy Vanner
- Knabstrub
- Marwari
- Mustang reg/unis
- Nokota
- Shetland reg/unis
- Trakhener


eriathwen
- Curly
- Hackney


FancySchmancy
- Hanoverian


freedomreins
- Hanoverians


HYDEIST
- Connemara


lbenedict15
- Holstein


Jumperanna
- Quarter Horse


kooldogz7
- Curly
- Gypsy Vanner
- Nokota


lanikot
- Marwari

MareWithAMission
- Drums

Misabel
- TB

msuequestrian
- Haflinger


naztuki
- Paints


Northener
- Drums
- Standardbreds


Orca98
- Drums


Pearl Onyx
- Shetland


Sootybelle
- KWPN
- Trakhener


Storms Ransome
- Appys
- Criollo


Sylevar Falcori
- Connemara


tallynen
- PSH


TheSeason1
- Haflinger


Zel
- Knabstrup
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By magictouch85, 3rd May 2017 14:04:18
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*waves* I NIB Lusis, when I can find/afford old foundies (or even qilin babies at times). My programme's really slowed to a crawl default smiley :(
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By Axel'sMommy, 3rd May 2017 19:15:41
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Oh, I noticed you have uni's on there too separately.

I breed Hanoverian horses and unicorns default smiley :)
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By keepsake, 3rd May 2017 23:05:34
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I get my wins super fast because I have 2 browsers, and an ipad. Plus, 3 diff. accts on co-man that I use fillers ondefault smiley :) I work 6 bluppers at a time, 5 comps a day + 60e lessons. Once I finish them, I take a day off, then start another group. I'm just doing sale horses right now, so I have no problem taking in anything temporarily to comp. Or even fill. I finish a group today in fact.

OK, I'm ready for the next question lol
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By Asfridur, 5th May 2017 16:25:39
Great thanks guys another update then default smiley (lol)
Excited your still here magictouch85. Crossing fingers you find new stock.

Keepsake no wonder you are the queen of foundie bluppers default smiley :o

Updated NIB list
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abitude
- Drums
- Lippizaner
- Welsh
- Shire


Asfridur
- Canadian
- Drums
- Russian Don unis
- Shagya
- Trakhener unis


Adivinanza
- Standardbred


Axel'sMommy
- Hanoverian reg/uni


boywithhorse
- Brumby


Comatose
- Akhal Teke
- Gypsy Vanner
- Knabstrub
- Marwari
- Mustang reg/unis
- Nokota
- Shetland reg/unis
- Trakhener


eriathwen
- Curly
- Hackney


FancySchmancy
- Hanoverian


freedomreins
- Hanoverians


HYDEIST
- Connemara


lbenedict15
- Holstein


Jumperanna
- Quarter Horse


kooldogz7
- Curly
- Gypsy Vanner
- Nokota


lanikot
- Marwari


magictouch85
- Lusitano


MareWithAMission
- Drums

Misabel
- TB

msuequestrian
- Haflinger


naztuki
- Paints


Northener
- Drums
- Standardbreds


Orca98
- Drums


Pearl Onyx
- Shetland


Sootybelle
- KWPN
- Trakhener


Storms Ransome
- Appys
- Criollo


Sylevar Falcori
- Connemara


tallynen
- PSH


TheSeason1
- Haflinger


Zel
- Knabstrup




An heads up from me default smiley :-x
Currently struggling with a level 3 Disc Protrusion. So I am not online very much right now. In too much pain. But gonna try and check a few threads now and then. More than doubtful I will work a lot of horses though. So my little pixels are on semi vacation
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By Retired breeder, 5th May 2017 17:59:42
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Feel better Asfridur!
By Axel'sMommy, 6th May 2017 00:10:35
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I hope you find relief soon Asfridur! I'm having spinal fusion (L4-S1) on May 19th. I feel you on the back issues default smiley :'(

keepsake, I second what Asfridur said lol.

I was taking a little break from my NIB Hano's and was having a little fun with some unicorns of other breeds, but I need to start working on my stock of Hano foundies that I've been neglecting.
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By Asfridur, 6th May 2017 05:33:31
Thank you both default smiley (l)

@Axel'sMommy I hope all will be well and you'll have a speedy recovery default smiley (l)
Have they informed you just how long it will be before you'll be back to semi normalcy?

You know all about the pain, that is simply not possible to describe in mere words then. Nasty business, and one scary experience balancing on the knives edge.


As to a more fun topic default smiley :-x
.. has anyone experienced getting odd skills on some of their foals?
I've got 2 now that have glitchy skills. It amuses me actually, so I have thought about seeing if it would be possible to have a line of glichy skilled horses.... as in back breeding a line... once I get better that is

Here's a link to oddball no 1 and number 2
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By Sylevar Falcori, 6th May 2017 11:41:07
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I am also doing Arabians.
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By JoergenG, 7th May 2017 09:29:31
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I know this is an old msg, but I have something to add or whatever you would call it.
I got my own little dead NIB project default smiley xd. But instead of using a spreadsheet, I write female A, female B, male C ect.
If I then breed FA and MC I will write (gender)AC, and then continue that way. And just make sure no letter is repeated.
Ofc. if you have a big project, this might not be the best solution, but for a little project (or perhaps up to 40-ish) I think it works splendid default smiley :)
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By Asfridur, 7th May 2017 17:15:47
I've added the Arabians Sylevar Falcori, default smiley :)

@JoergenG - it's a good idea - def usable for smaller scale projects like you said.
Have you abandoned the project entirely?
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By lbenedict15, 9th May 2017 00:26:57
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@Asfridur and Axel'sMommy, speed recoveries!

@Keeping records- I use an Excel spreadsheet for pedigrees. Super easy for me. If I knew how to add a screenshot, I would!

I always forget how easy it is to get sucked into breeding the NIBs. Put a few 3rd gens (from the same parents) on the ground today, and needed a female. All my males came out with amazing GPs, and decent skills. The females were lousy GPs and amazing skills. Haha! So, I Bolted the top boy hehe.

Dix

Also played around with my Canadian unicorns. I really need to work on them more! And find another Bolt, so I can have even numbers.

I had to give up the 100 BLUP breeding goals. I just don't have time to be spending on gaining that achievement. It really saddens me, but at least I can still NIB!
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By Retired breeder, 9th May 2017 03:32:02
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@Asfridur and @Axel'sMommy good luck!!
@Asfridur looks like you're a leader of sorts-- I basically joined today so I've only got two horses (who are both siblings so I won't be breeding them together XD), but I'm interested in NIB breeding and would like to be added to the list at some point?
By Retired breeder, 9th May 2017 07:05:30
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@Asfridur and @Axel'sMommy get well soondefault smiley ;)


Isn't it okay to breed together your first two horses since Ouranos and Gaia are exceptions?
By Asfridur, 9th May 2017 09:59:51
Thank you all default smiley (l)

@darkhorsefarm welcome on board, and welcome on Howrse.
Of course you can join!
If you want your name on the list just let us know, and I'll add you.

Nope I'm not a leader here, I just kinda post a lot in this thread default smiley ^)
I found it frustrating that I did not have a list of NIB'ers and what breeds we all work, so decided to try and make one.

@Pearl Onyx yes your right all foundies have Ouranos and Gaia as parents.
So the horses can indeed be used.

Even if the 2 foals you have darkhorsefarm are basically born from the same 2 horses they are a new exception to the NIB rules.
The 2 foals you have come from the new tutorial here on the game. So even though they are indeed siblings you can still use them. To start your project.

Crazy isn't it ... and confusing default smiley :o
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By Asfridur, 9th May 2017 10:00:57
@lbenedict15 congrats with the 3rd gens

I hear you I am seen the 100% BLUP slowly slipping as well default smiley :s
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By Retired breeder, 9th May 2017 12:51:55
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Oh! Can you add me to the list for Shires please? default smiley :) I'm up to Gen 4 already default smiley :d default smiley :d

Hoping I can slowly work my way back up to get Gen 5 by the end of June <3
By Asfridur, 9th May 2017 16:44:46
Absolutely Poindextra ...
Impressive - I'm only at gen 3 with the Drums default smiley :)

I'm super happy to see so many still NIB. Never thought there was actually that many left default smiley (l)

Updated list below
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NIB LIST SORTED BY PLAYER NAME

abitude
- Drums
- Lippizaner
- Welsh
- Shire


Asfridur
- Canadian
- Drums
- Russian Don (uni)
- Shagya
- Trakhener (uni)


Adivinanza
- Standardbred


Axel'sMommy
- Hanoverian (reg + uni)


boywithhorse
- Brumby


Comatose
- Akhal Teke
- Gypsy Vanner
- Knabstrub
- Marwari
- Mustang (reg + unis)
- Nokota
- Shetland (reg + unis)
- Trakhener


eriathwen
- Curly
- Hackney


FancySchmancy
- Hanoverian


freedomreins
- Hanoverians

HYDEIST
- Connemara


lbenedict15
- Holstein


Jumperanna
- Quarter Horse


kooldogz7
- Curly
- Gypsy Vanner
- Nokota


lanikot
- Marwari


magictouch85
- Lusitano


MareWithAMission
- Drums


Misabel
- TB


msuequestrian
- Haflinger


naztuki
- Paints


Northener
- Drums
- Standardbreds


Orca98
- Drums


Pearl Onyx
- Shetland


Poindextra
- Shire


Sootybelle
- KWPN
- Trakhener


Storms Ransome
- Appys
- Criollo


Sylevar Falcori
- Arabian
- Connemara


tallynen
- PSH


TheSeason1
- Haflinger


Zel
- Knabstrup

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By Retired breeder, 9th May 2017 16:56:31
It took many aging points and lots of sleepless nights to get that far!

I've been hoarding foundies and thankfully their prices have dropped a little bit so I'm hoarding more default smiley :) I want at least gen 10
By Asfridur, 9th May 2017 19:10:42
default smiley :) your in for the long run then.

I'm grabbing drums when I can as well.
Very lucky the price has dropped indeed.

Not quite sure how many generations I'd like to breed yet. So I just grab a few here and there when I can
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By Retired breeder, 10th May 2017 00:14:13
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This is my first BIG BIG project I've taken on! Other projects and affixes I'm just kind of casual with except maybe my unicorns but they're not NIB.

I'm super pumped.

Wondering how I'm going to get the 40th birthday wandering horse though :/ I don't have many older ones.
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