[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 10th August 2017 21:54:38
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So I just finished training this gal. She's my first 1st gen. that I've finished training. I'll probably finish another one today, too.
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By lbenedict15, 11th August 2017 10:59:33
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Why is it so hard to resist the sales?! Just added another Foundie that I really didn't need to the collection. Oh well, at least it is a female, and I am low on them!

Looking good eriathwen! I love the Hackney images, so regal.
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By Axel'sMommy, 11th August 2017 19:28:07
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Thank you eriathwen!

I should have my first 4th gen in the next 2 weeks. I'm working on 4 1st gens to eventually get a foal to breed with my 593.04 3rd gen I got a couple days ago. What is everyone else working on?
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By keepsake, 11th August 2017 19:37:53
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3 QHs and an Irish Hunter.

Btw, I can fill any time. I am down to only 10 pass horses, so I'm wanting to work my fillers to the bone. default smiley xd

Don't have any active Foundies to get comp wins on yet, but I do have 1 troublesome IB mare I need help with. So, pounce on me any time and just hope i'm not busy with yoga or something. I'm always free. default smiley :d
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By Retired breeder, 12th August 2017 13:30:33
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As far as my NIBs go, I just got a foal from Leo and Felony (whou hoo!) So I'm just trying to finish up Larcen and MisD to get a foal out of them. All I have left for Larcen is bolding and aging. MisD, however, I switched to English to fulfill a requirement for a promo and now she's having the worst time getting her wins and she's not bolded. Ugh.

My mustangs are slowly plodding along though. I'm kinda holding off on them until I have the seniority for a breeding farm. I'm already getting confused on what horses I can just compete and put to bed on my phone and those that I need to get on the computer and milk their energy for all it's worth. default smiley :p
By lbenedict15, 13th August 2017 02:05:33
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The Holsties are being stubborn, haha! Breeding wise, waiting one of my 1st gens to foal and waiting for my 3rd gen to throw a proper foal default smiley (li) BLUPing, working the young 1st gens and foundies. I need to get some more 1st gens on the ground!

The unicorns, as usual, have been tucked aside again. Don't know why, just get so bored with them. And they have such pretty coats too, it really does amaze me.
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By Moon Unicorn345, 13th August 2017 04:59:48
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I'm currently working on breeding my Australian Pony (female) 1st gen with my Australian Pony (male) 1st gen. These horses were my first ever horses!
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By Axel'sMommy, 14th August 2017 02:59:04
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Top NIB 593.04
Horse's Breed: Hanoverian
Current GP: 593.04
Link to the Horse's Page: Top NIB 593.04
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 15th August 2017 23:40:51
There are a bunch of new old foundations in the sales ranging from about 40k to 75k in the sales. I saw quite a few curlies and haflingers.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 16th August 2017 02:11:51
Dunno about anyone else, but I'm liking the fountain glitch, getting so much done with my hackneys with the extra energy.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 16th August 2017 03:41:27
Oi, I meant, the Grand Prix glitch that happened that caused the Fountain thing. Yup. XD
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By Asfridur, 16th August 2017 07:39:16

Thank you eriathwen!


default smiley (lol) when I first saw I I was ... O_O
But totally enjoying it as well.

Game wise I've had to slow down to a crawl - rehab is no walk in the park that's for sure.
Miss working my NIB's *sulks*

Oh my. Nice Hano horn Axel'sMommy default smiley (7)
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By Axel'sMommy, 16th August 2017 11:52:42
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Asfridur,

Thank you! What's funny is that, I was slightly disappointed when I saw she was a uni because they usually have lower GP's. I literally squealed when I saw it default smiley xd

I feel you on the rehab. It was your back wasn't it? I had fusion back in May but I'm doing pretty well and going back to college in a couple weeks. Finally. You'll get back in the game soon default smiley :)
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By Asfridur, 16th August 2017 18:46:31
@Axel'sMommy I was in total awe of that little thing default smiley ^)

I've grabbed several more foundie Shagya. Could not resist them. And there are still more in sales.... oh lord I want them all.


Yes it was slipped disc surgery. MT scan only showed 1, when they started surgery they found a second one. So I got a 2 for 1 deal I guess default smiley (lol)
So thus rehab will take longer than they expected. Really running out of patience, and they cannot say just when I'll be back to my normal active self..
They have told me I am allowed to start working max 9 hours per week, come September. And heaven be blessed I am now also allowed to drive my car, provided I only do short trips.

Was going to ask you how everything went. I'm really happy for you that it went fine.
So you are still doing rehab?
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By lbenedict15, 20th August 2017 11:19:17
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Driftwood Shores
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Holsteiner
Current GP: 565.70 (10*)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=53308757
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By Asfridur, 22nd August 2017 09:12:46
Thanks to a super nice player I managed to get hold of a lot of old Shagya foundies.
I'm super super happy.

Thank you default smiley (k)


Wow your moving fast there lbenedict15!
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By lbenedict15, 22nd August 2017 10:16:21
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Gotta love finding players will to feed the addiction! default smiley xd They are few and far between lately.

Thanks Asfridur! Driftwood Shores is a fourth gen. I will be quiet a while, at least with GP. I have to get a few more second and third gens on the ground!
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By Asfridur, 22nd August 2017 18:10:18
Yes I was super happy.

Still working on the drums - my games so slow as of late
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By October Lilac, 23rd August 2017 23:02:13
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But why am I always out of ageing pointsdefault smiley xd

I decided to do a collection/NIB project of those new rolling gain Kaktos/foundie unicorns. All breeds. It's exciting, thought I'd sharedefault smiley (lol) I wish I could do it with the old foundies, but they are so expensive and hard to work with.

I'm glad I see a lot of long-time NIBers still around on here!
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By Zoraia, 24th August 2017 02:02:21
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Will the newly released foundies of 3175 GP still be considered NIB and postable if we start at this GP level instead of at 350 or the other higher GP? Considering starting to NIB QH.
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By Zoraia, 24th August 2017 02:15:43
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I'm also new to actually NIB despite being on Howrse for an extended time period. Is it possible to start a NIB farm from 4 foundies, bred 2 and 2 and then their children? Or since the second generation will require covering siblings' kids together, they will have the same foundie grandparents, it's not NIB once it gets there? We are required to find outside breeders or new foundie parents to continue stock? Appreciate any responses!
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 24th August 2017 07:46:01

Indeed, you can! There's a tiny spot for the rolling gain GP up in the intro thing, under the old GP list.
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By Retired breeder, 24th August 2017 17:46:25
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From what I understand, offspring should never have a horse in its pedigree more than once.
By Asfridur, 24th August 2017 19:34:07

yep that is correct ✧ milk-blossom ✧
You can only use the same horse once. If the horse has the same ancestor appearing more than once, when you check the pedigree, it's not a NIB horse. It is then considered inbred.
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By Zoraia, 25th August 2017 22:26:56
Is it worth making newer Foundie horses (GP is over 350 but parents are Ouranos and Gaia) immortal? Do people value those foundies more if immortal the same as original 350 GP ones?
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