[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 13th July 2017 14:25:10
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Oh happy day! I actually managed to get a pass from one of the sponsor offers and since I am still 6 days shy of 30 days seniority, I was able to buy another foundie. Now I have a female foundie. No matter what gender foal Leo and Felony produce once I'm done training them, I'll have a mate for them!
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By Asfridur, 13th July 2017 17:06:51
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Thanks Misabel.
Hope you had a good vacation?
Glad you got you PC issues fixed.

I'm visiting family currently.
Is easier when I need someone to drive me to rehab.
Buncha evil monsters the lot of them default smiley (lol) But they definitely know what muscles and tendons that needs work...omg.

Any ways means I only have laptop access when my family isn't using it. If they are I have to make due with the iPad, and it gets old fast.
I really miss my PC - the bigger screen and opening several tabs.
On the laptop I have to set zoom to 50% to make the game tolerable to play. If I do not the scrolling drives me mental.

Bought a pair of foundie Shagya in sales - expensive but I had to get the,. Also bought some RG drums. I really have to stop checking sales default smiley ^)
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By Azhure, 14th July 2017 00:22:09
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I have a fair few NIB horses, lots of different breeds. All original NIB horses. I'm setting up a topic in my EC forum with the list of what I have since I don't know if posting that I'm willing to breed or that they are up for breeding is allowed here....
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By Retired breeder, 14th July 2017 01:03:05
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you should always be checking sales default smiley (m) lol
By Emma Haven, 14th July 2017 01:38:00


How do you buy a Foundie?
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By Retired breeder, 15th July 2017 13:57:08
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It's only an option up to 30 days seniority. But you can buy another foundie and choose the color for 1 pass. Considering I don't have a desire for many of the BMIs, I used a pass for that. default smiley :) It's under the same category as a business key.
By Emma Haven, 18th July 2017 21:56:25
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Woah if I had known that I would have gotten one. Oh well...
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By Retired breeder, 20th July 2017 18:09:50
Hope everyone is well. I'm still struggling to visit, i sorted my breeds ONCE AGAIN. now to get some boarded and comping!

For ECs, what is the highest skill I should ask for? I have flax, showers, biggest stalls, ect.. 100% comfort and 100% meadows and such, just need great boarders, any tips?
By keepsake, 20th July 2017 22:28:25


Yello!!

I'd say it depends on what lesson gain you're opting fordefault smiley :) Mine are 60e, as I do a Gypsy skiller every 4-6 weeks to keep it there.
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By Retired breeder, 21st July 2017 23:25:45
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oh how i wish the unicorn promo would be original foundies =(
By keepsake, 22nd July 2017 00:13:45
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Yep. I saw that and I was like...I have no passes...and I own every breed. I'm good default smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 22nd July 2017 01:53:13
I know id be interested if they were original but alas I have all I need and some ive never even touched sadly =(
By Asfridur, 22nd July 2017 05:38:47
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Me as well. I would totally love to have more Uni Dons just to mention one breed.

But the current promo I couldn't care less.


Accidentally bought some more RG Drums.
I blame Shisui for suggesting I should always check sales default smiley (l)default smiley (lol)
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By keepsake, 22nd July 2017 06:25:10
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default smiley xd I think I have some more RG Drums somewhere, but where...beats me.

I'm working on 3 QHs and a Hunter at the moment. After that, it's anyone's guess.
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By Retired breeder, 22nd July 2017 23:07:12
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I just won a drum horse drom hipparon...a divine ida never got if foundies changed.

Got 1 win on a foundie vanner last night pretty excited! Hoping to blup with jeep tonight to finish a vanner pair. Currently gaming and training 2nd gen marwari unis and 1st gen vanners so feels good
By Asfridur, 24th July 2017 07:59:05
I forgot to enter a NIB yesterday - old age syndrome anyone? default smiley (lol)
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By spotngold24, 24th July 2017 17:31:12
Hey everyone! I'm new to NIB breeding but I've always wanted to get into it! I decided to go with Drum Horses for a couple reason. The main being how challenging it is with only 3 covers. Is anyone else trying Drums or other draft horses? I'd love to chat with people who enjoy the same challenges I am!!
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 25th July 2017 03:02:30
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Hey y'all! I need a favor. I have a bunch of 1st gen. Hackneys (OGP) that need their comps filled for both types of comps. Many of them are entered in comps for all horses.

My horses have names like Heart Attack α, I n f i n i t y α, MONEY & FAME α, and so on. Basically any horse with alpha (α) behind their name.

Anyway, thanks if you do fill. I'll return the favor.
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By Retired breeder, 26th July 2017 14:01:16
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Whou whoo!!!! Got my first pair of foundie Mustang foals.
Focusing on getting my TBs going first though. I've got enough foundies for about 4 generations after I get Leo and Felony BLUPed for breeding (and then BLUP their foal - gross).
By Retired breeder, 26th July 2017 14:10:02
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@spotngold - I have the farms just haven't started the process of blupping those guys yet.


congrats on the mustangs! they were one of the hardest for me to gather

as for filling comps, if i see them i sure will!
By lgelwell, 26th July 2017 15:01:36
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Maybe this is more of a frustration than a question, but how do you go about "repairing" the damage done by previous owners when trying to BLUP partially trained foundies?

I use the note pad on each of them and have the BLUP schedule for that breed posted, but when all of the wrong skills are fully trained, and none of the rides are done, not to mention no wins, I feel like Im wasting my time.

Do you BLUP differently for foundies or just try to clean them up as best you can and hope to get wins?
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By Misabel, 26th July 2017 19:37:44


I'm working old foundies, so I need to cram all the skills I can in to them no matter what - no real schedule or order to it, just bold all the skills I'll need for the comps I want to enter, slap on as many bonus as possible and start comping. Whatever the previous owner did makes no difference to me, as long as it was toward that end.

The only exception is a foundie that has been allowed to get on in years without doing lessons. Those "lost" skill points can not be recovered, and it makes a big difference when you're trying to get wins. You have to either have friends to help you fill, or get very lucky.
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By Retired breeder, 26th July 2017 22:47:42
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I generally have people help me fill when I encounter a bad one. I have several rarer foundies (knabs, mainly) who were poorly trained and at 15 with no wins its kinda rough start when there are still top 3 skills needing bolding
By kashi, 26th July 2017 23:33:08
Do foundation unicorn parents count in NIB breeding? I have at least 2 of every original foundy except the quater ponies are foundation unicorns not ponies.
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By Retired breeder, 27th July 2017 01:28:02
Yes they do! some of us actually have unicorn lines! you can absolutely use those in a regular line!
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