[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By keepsake, 27th June 2017 05:40:20
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*innocently leaves gifts at Asfridur's howrse-doorsteps* default smiley (8)'s innocently.

Finished blupping and bolding a QH Foundy last week.

Now working on 2 Lippi mares, and 2 QHs. I think in a week or so, I'll be starting a Hunter and another QH. I'm on a roll.

With that said, I now have a pair of orig. Haffies ready for adoption. They got me wondering about unique Haffy crosses, and now I've decided that one of my Dev. Art chars, is going to be raising Haffy sports default smiley xd
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By Axel'sMommy, 27th June 2017 10:48:47
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I do the same thing! I'm trying to get a coat, background, and PS on all of my foundation Hanos. Also, I started a thread in my forum for showing off your foundations if you'd like to post your horses there as well default smiley :)
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By Asfridur, 27th June 2017 15:00:50
@lbenedict15 what a gorgeous GA on that mare - and congratulations with the foal!

@keepsake omg---- thank you default smiley (l)

@Axel'sMommy sweet idea - going to go check those pretty pixels and post a few
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By kooldogz7, 29th June 2017 18:48:03
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Thank you lbenedict15 and beakie for the foundies! Especially, since it's getting so hard to find them these days. default smiley ^)
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By Emma Haven, 29th June 2017 20:45:08
Anyone with any NIB horses for sale PM me please.
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By JoergenG, 30th June 2017 16:46:35
Anybody breeding KWPN rolling GP?
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By Asfridur, 30th June 2017 17:03:57

Only one I know that breeds KWPN is Sootybelle. But I don't think their RG's.

Anyone?
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By Emma Haven, 1st July 2017 16:38:51
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Just as am FYI there are a bunch of Foundation horses for sale in the direct sales for 35000.
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By JoergenG, 1st July 2017 16:55:41
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I think you just crashed my economy right there...

What I'm telling myself right now: "No, buy 8 foundies impulsively like that is not bad. 8 isn't too many"

But they were so cheap!
Got 6 shires, 5 for 35k and 1 for 25k (had 2 covers left).
AND 2 BRAND NEW Percherons!! A female and male, 50k each. So now I have all draft breeds... And a money problem
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By lbenedict15, 2nd July 2017 10:43:32
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Dix
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Holsteiner
Current GP: 519.61
Link to the Horse's Page:Dix
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By HYDEIST, 2nd July 2017 19:27:49
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*breaks down the door* Unicorn time because I am still crazy. Also I still exist. Sort of. Hi.

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Seifer
Horse's Breed: Peruvian Paso
Current GP: 441.91
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=52840386
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By JoergenG, 2nd July 2017 21:38:51
Are old GP Gypsy Vanner hard to find for equus??
Been looking in the sales every day for a while, but I have only seen any for 3-4 passes.

Want to start a new project (not NIB), and Gypsy Vanners are my favourite IRL horses default smiley (7)
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By Emma Haven, 2nd July 2017 22:42:52
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I am buying any Foundie or NIB of all of the following breeds...

Appaloosa
Barb
Brumby
Chincoteague Pony
Curly
Friesian
Hackney
Hanoverian
Morgan
Mustang
Newfoundland Pony
Nokota
Russian Don Horse
Welsh

Feel free to PM if you have any. I don 't care about gender, coats, or skill level. Also in a few weeks time I will have TB and Drum NIBs for sale.
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By Asfridur, 3rd July 2017 06:52:26
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Thanks Emma Haven - I grabbed some Drums.
That's a lot of breeds your trying to find. Are you working on a specific project or just trying to complete a trophy? Or something else entirely?

It's great to see those NIB entries default smiley (7)

And welcome back HYDEIST!

Trying to breed a NIB 3rd gen Drum that has a GP better suited for one of the 2 I currently have. One has 1953 the other 2140. Don't want to breed those together if I can help it. The gap is too high.

@JoergenG yes they are hard to find I'm afraid. How about going for RG's in stead? There are several up for sale right now?
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By Asfridur, 3rd July 2017 07:25:30
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OMG I found 4 (old GP), untouched Shagya foals in sales - so cheap I had to look twice default smiley (7)
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By JoergenG, 3rd July 2017 08:16:01
@asfridur That would kinda defeat the purpose of the project default smiley xd I want to breed the two only and see how far I can get with their GP.
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By JoergenG, 3rd July 2017 08:41:17
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I gave up on finding Gypsys, so I choose another breed with a pretty coat, PSH default smiley xd
Wanted them today because Wilderness visited me, so I could buy the Wanderers Spirit. Now I have two pretty Foundies default smiley (7)
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By Asfridur, 3rd July 2017 09:07:31
@JoergenG that is true ^^
Good luck with your project - and a Wilderness visit - nice!

Did you get GA's you don't have already?


I'm browsing sales
- oh my there are so many cheap old GP foundies right now...must resist default smiley :o
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By JoergenG, 3rd July 2017 09:36:58
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I got Zeus and
Cochise.
I wanted two from history, but accidentally chose Greek Mythology instead. But I'm not unhappy with Zeus default smiley :d

I didn't have any of them before
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By JoergenG, 3rd July 2017 09:39:13
[url=https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=30306626]This is Zeus[/url*] default smiley xd
Don't know what happened there
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By JoergenG, 3rd July 2017 09:40:13
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Sorry for the triple post... default smiley (o)
This is Zeus
3rd time's a charm, right?
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By lbenedict15, 3rd July 2017 09:52:03
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Love all horses being posted! Great to see such activity. Just plugging along working on BLUPs.
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By Emma Haven, 3rd July 2017 20:46:17
[quote=1403425099]Thanks Emma Haven - I grabbed some Drums.
That's a lot of breeds your trying to find. Are you working on a specific project or just trying to complete a trophy? Or something else entirely?

It's a long term goal I am just trying to get the trophy and have it all be NIB horses. Currently I am only breeding TB's. I am BLUPs all the other horses before I start breeding them.
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By Rattler Winter, 3rd July 2017 21:12:05
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Ok, so I'm looking for a very old, very specific howrse that probably isn't around anymore but it's worth a shot. He should have a birthdate of before 2010, he is a 350 foundation, Strawberry Roan Arabian stud. His affix had something with the word 'cloud' in it. If anyone has one like this or in fact any affix made before 2010 thaat has to do with a cloud, please let me know, I'm trying my best to find them and Howrse Spotters hasn't given me any luck but maybe I can find help with that stud here?

Thank you
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By Rattler Winter, 3rd July 2017 21:13:28
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Sorry for the double post, but his breeder is retired so there's a bit more info on him. He also has a pet, possibly a dog, or a zebra, and there's a slight chance it's a cat
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