[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Asfridur, 3rd June 2017 15:55:06
Triple posting sorry ......


You have 6 generations? Oh my... that is impressive default smiley (7)
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By Asfridur, 3rd June 2017 20:07:32

Yes only abitude and Poindextra NIB Shires.

One can never have too many foundation horses default smiley ^)


Very helpful thank you JoergenG

Hopefully they will switch to Russian Dons soon... I'd love a pair of those.... even if their RG.


I just realized I don't have any RG Appys.... Guess I'm going to see if I can grab 2 - I'm hopeless and will never be wealthy here default smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 3rd June 2017 20:09:05
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@Asfridur
Thank you very much, and I suppose I probably ought to go with the newer ones. Yes, please, Id love to keep all breeding stock fully blupped. Currently working on my foundies, but will pm once ready! default smiley :)
By JoergenG, 3rd June 2017 20:27:27
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Just to add to that, I was multi mother breeds in the danish one. Including Arabs default smiley ;)
But there are less breeds there, so that might be why
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By JoergenG, 3rd June 2017 21:18:06
Multiple other
I don't know how that ended up as multi mother default smiley xd
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By JoergenG, 3rd June 2017 21:18:41
Sorry for triple posting!!

There* instead of I
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By Retired breeder, 3rd June 2017 23:44:44
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Ayyyy sup Shire hoarder here default smiley (y)

I'm not at 6 gens yet Asfridur, just 3. 4 if you count foundies, which I don't.
By Retired breeder, 3rd June 2017 23:46:00
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Oh also, I'mma try avoiding the triple post trend default smiley xd BUT

I have legitimately no energy today. I tried, really. Went to see Wonder Woman and it was a wonderful movie. Then at dinner I wasn't quite myself yet but I kept pushing. default smiley :s

Now tho I'm looking at my farms being unworked and wondering how in tarnation I'm going to get anything done. Maybe just one horse at a time today.
By Asfridur, 4th June 2017 04:28:25
@ JoergenG - I see RG Connies in auction now. Trying to get a pair of each breed of the RG's so I might try and get 2 *stares at fodder*

No Arabians yet though...bummer

@Poindextra - hi Shire hoarder. Hope you get better soon.
I thought you had reached 6 gens and was like default smiley :o
I call foundies 0 gen so I don't count them either. 3 gen is still impressive!
The number of foundies you need to breed higher gens sure do add up and fast.

I've heard good stuff about Wonder Woman. So it was a good watch?

@allroanedout thanks for the friend request.
I'll add 2 RG stangs to my pile of wannabe blups. Don't work your QH too please...thanks. Just kidding I'll try to push my mare forward in the pile a little default smiley ^)
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By JoergenG, 4th June 2017 12:34:20
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@poindextra how do you even have money enough to hoard Shire foundies? default smiley :o

@Asfridur I believe in you! Go get 'em default smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 4th June 2017 17:34:57
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@Asfridur

For what it is, yes. I was very impressed with how it was done, and there's not much I could've done without in the film itself.


@JoergenG

I've been collecting them for over a year, if I'm recalling correctly. Among that, I've had VIP subscriptions that auto-purchase foundies under a certain price threshold. I keep every foundie I buy and work them in pairs to breed down.

I also run my EC as best I can, furnished with comps and extra boosts from events.

I also try and get my divines and stronger horses into competitions every day to earn E that way.
By Retired breeder, 4th June 2017 21:47:30
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@Asfridur
Thank you very much! Once I can buy from the direct sales I'll be able to start hoarding some foundation horses as well. It will take a long time to get there, especially being a non pass buyer, but I don't think anyone else has quite tried this lol.
By JoergenG, 5th June 2017 14:42:45
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@Poindextra

I mostly earn money from selling leather. I have 4 25 acres meadows with feed trough, so thats some good money every 30 days :P
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By Retired breeder, 5th June 2017 18:13:24
I can dig it! I have two meadows running apples that I just unload every so often. It's nice.
By Miss Evans, 6th June 2017 02:46:56
I'm looking for NIB/foundation Teke unis so I can start NIB breeding. O.o I'm new to this so I don't even know if it's possible to get a Teke uni from Ouranos and Gaia or with the new GP horses...

How do you even find that in the sales default smiley xddefault smiley xd HELP default smiley xd
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By Axel'sMommy, 6th June 2017 05:47:58


Breeding NIB uni anything is extremely difficult. I breed NIB Hanos (original GP) and I just bought one a few days ago for 10 passes. There are original GP Akhal-Teke Uni's like this one for example but none are currently for sale. I just search for the breed I'm looking for, unicorn and winged unicorn, with GP less than 351.
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By Miss Evans, 6th June 2017 11:42:04
*sigh* Yeah, I agree with you (and thanks). If one day I'm lucky enough to see an original/NIB Akhal-Teke uni from the sales, I'll bide my time by blupping it until I see another one default smiley xd
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By JoergenG, 7th June 2017 17:50:59
I don't think I'll ever be a NIB uni breeder. Too greedy default smiley xd
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By Asfridur, 8th June 2017 09:23:41
default smiley (lol) well let's look at it this way - if all here only bred NIB, the GP would be extremely low.
And a lot of players would probably get really bored ^

It would probably be easier to BLUP though
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By JoergenG, 8th June 2017 10:58:08
It would be really hard if everybody bred NIB, since there wouldn't be a lot of horses for everybody...
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By Retired breeder, 8th June 2017 12:48:43
I'm thinking of working pairs down to gen 4, because I wanna see dat sweet GP increase.

Hoping for 3* this time around!
By keepsake, 8th June 2017 21:51:24
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As of next week, I'll have very little to blup. I'll be caught up...like...seriously. I'll just be comping a few randoms every now and then, and team stuff. So I'll have time to fill and blup for anyone needing helpdefault smiley :) My fillers hate being covered in dust, they love a good workout. default smiley xd
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By kooldogz7, 9th June 2017 15:38:05


keepsake, I could use the help with wins if you wouldn't mind helping. default smiley :)
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By keepsake, 9th June 2017 22:00:08
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default smiley :d tonight I comp my last 4, tomorrow I take a break, and then I'm free. So just catch me whenever.
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By Axel'sMommy, 9th June 2017 22:49:44
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I might need your help Keepsake as well here soon. I need to get some of these Hanos comps done lol. I have like, 37ish foundies that I'm slowly working on lol. The vast majority are still in training but I have a few ready for comps.
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