[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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By Retired breeder, 17th April 2016 13:25:34
25 TW 25 Fresian 25 Appaloosa 25 Paint

Don't know exactly how this is going to turn out, but I'm just experimenting. Whatever I get might have some sort of potential, or it could be a rare coat or something. Might keep it to get more breeds because I'm thinking about Paints as my latest project! Wish me luck!
By Retired breeder, 17th April 2016 15:34:35
Does anyone know of a good cross bred that will expel in reining??
By Retired breeder, 17th April 2016 20:26:12


Wow, she's a purdy one. And her gallop's going to be great! default smiley (y)
By Retired breeder, 17th April 2016 20:29:05


Not sure what to breed it with since I'm wondering the same thing (so I'll keep an eye out to see if anyone has any suggestions), but for one of the two that you use to cross with, you could consider an arabian horse. Mine, Rainy;
http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=47913457
Excells at western pleasure but she also does pretty great in reining and trail classes. If you want to go for a low primary skill and high secondary and tertiary skills (ie. in which case breed horses with very low dressage but very high trot and jumping) so it can enter at a lower level and do well, then try breeding two with low dressage. but high trot and jumping. Or you could try and max out all three at their highest so as to try and annihilate anything that gets in its way! default smiley ;)default smiley (y)
Bred this little guy earlier today. Love the IBS, just a pity he's an Appy instead of a Trake.
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New game plan. Gonna breed the little guy's mom, Nereida, to a Chinco to get another speedy cross that's 50% Trake and 50% something else (was gonna do it to a Mustang but the top team doesn't give out covers sobs).

Then I'm gonna blup the male baby and breed it back to Nereida to get another speedy Trake, since unfortunately her first baby turned out an Appy. Also gonna try and breed the female twin (gonna breed with H Pack) to Lσя∂ Aяαgσяη and hopefully get a nice Trake there too.

It's my kind of goal to take over the Trake speed board and have all top 10 spots be my Cʀᴏssғɪʀᴇ horses default smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 17th April 2016 23:55:30
I need some advice here... I've got this cutie in my crossbreeding program, but I'm not sure what to do with her as I'm trying to breed mixes who excel in dressage - but she's got tons of skills dumped into stamina. What could I cross her to to get something with lower stamina without nuking her dressage, trot and gallop (which I quite like)?

She's so nice, I don't want to waste her just because her stamina is too high to cross with my Knabs.
My crossbreeds never work. I always get a muddled mess whenever I crossbreed, and I'm going for speed so it's many arabs, standards, and thouroghs. Then I mix in a few more fast breeds and I have a complete faliure that the genetics tab looks like a blob.
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By Retired breeder, 18th April 2016 00:42:35
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Hm, that's a tough one. For me, I'm 'winging' it a little, and seeing what competitions the foal excels in. You may have tried this but if not you could try what I'm doing for now? So pick a competition, ie. western pleasure. Find a mare that excels in that and a sire that does the same. Now, I look out for "how" they're managing to win so many western pleasures. Does this mare have a low trot (primary skill), but a very high stamina and dressage. Lots of breeders do this because the low primary skill puts it into a lower 'band' of competitions, but then the high stamina and dressage means that it is capable of packing a punch. So if you get a sire that has this approach; ie. low trot, high stamina and dressage, and also a mare that does the same, your best bet is to breed them together. If the mare has the "low primary" approach, but the male is just maxed out at everything then breeding them might increase the foal's trot, but because it'll find a medium between the parents it'll lower the overall skills, so it wins less.

That's what I'm doing at the moment because normally the foal excels in said competition. Its an easy bet. Lots of crossbreeders will pick a breed with, lets say again, low trot but high stamina and dressage and breed it for a purpose; ie. with another breed that typically has low trot to lower its trot further and put it in a lower band. That's where some pushing and shoving comes in because you have to work out how to balance the genetics best. But I'm getting in over my own depth, hahaha!

I'm babbling on and I'm probably repeating what you already know *blushes* but I really hope this helped! default smiley 8-)default smiley (y)


Arabs are probably bringing you down. Decide on which speed comp you want, gallop, trot, sj, barrel, or cutting and work from there. Sppedy breeds are going to be SB, TB, Paint, Appi, PSH and a mix of others.
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Did my Chinco breeding and got some really nice babies!

The female twin.

Gonna skill one and just blup the other. Question though: If I breed her back to Lσя∂ Aяαgσяη, will I end up with a Trake baby or a Chinco baby?
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Lippizans and Haflingers have the correct skill sets, or potentially a Lippi-Marwari cross could work for you (I'll admit I've never tried it, so proceed with caution! default smiley ;) )
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I'd try out a Lustiano personally default smiley :)
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Anyone for my question here?

I don't want to waste a covering only to get the wrong breed.
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By Retired breeder, 18th April 2016 18:05:37
what breed horses excel at Trot, that can cross breed well with each other?

Hopefully this will help (skills in order from highest to lowest in purebreds)

Tennesse walker: Trot, Stamina, dressage, speed, jumping, gallop
Hackney: Trot, Stamina, dressage, speed, jumping, gallop
Standardbred: Trot, speed, stamina, dressage, jumping, gallop
Peruvian Paso: Trot, speed, dressage, Stamina, jumping, gallop
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Definitely won't be Chinco...either Appy or Trake (will be 37.5% Appy, 37.5% Trake, 25% Chinco)
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In addition, some breeds with trot not as primary but in their top 3...
Icelandic Horse: Stamina, Dressage, Trot, gallop, jumping, speed
Curly: Stamina, Trot, Speed, dressage, gallop, jumping
Friesian: Dressage, Trot, Stamina, Gallop, Jumping, Speed
Lustiano: Dressage, Trot, Gallop, jumping, stamina, speed
Nokota: Dressage, Trot, Jumping, stamina, speed, gallop
Knabstrupper: dressage, trot, jumping, gallop, speed, stamina
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Aww man- So I'm going to have to do a test breeding after all?
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By Retired breeder, 18th April 2016 18:27:26
@Thank you
@starry97
I feel like I did hear somewhere that in this type of situation you would get (in your case) a Trake, but I don't remember where I heard that and could be wrong.

So, unless someone else knows something I don't, yeah probably default smiley (d)
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I thought so too, something like it'll turn out to be the breed or the father's father or something. Ah well. We'll see I guess. default smiley xd
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