[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 06:18:58
that's OK because i don't know what your asking default smiley (lol)
"who one stands "in" toes"????? default smiley :pdefault smiley :-))
By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 06:43:16
hahaha, mixed up the two letters. How*. Dang it!

Alright, sits back and waits for update. Got Lux to almost 7 years old and looking good so far. No wins that I noticed yet but he hasn't been entered in arabian "type" comps for the most part.
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By foxy3000123, 27th January 2010 06:45:49
*Does happy dance*

Amymone has won 13 races, and that's just being entered in them to bold her top three skills. She's still got more to run as well. default smiley :-))
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By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 06:47:17
Congrads! Hoping for something like that to happen with all of mine default smiley (lol)
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By foxy3000123, 27th January 2010 06:48:18
Thanks, she does have laurels and spurs. default smiley (lol)
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By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 06:50:30
Lux has some spurs, a pack and a seahorse to back him up but he is a 1st gen so it may be slightly more difficult to get those low level comp wins like you can get with properly trained foundations.
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By foxy3000123, 27th January 2010 06:52:21
She's a foundie, and only has training in speed and dressage, entering low level galloping comps. Good luck with Lux. default smiley :d
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By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 06:53:40
Thanks, 2 2nds and 1 3rd so far but he has over 20 left to run and he is far from finished in all of his training. Just waiting for after the update to enter in some newer comps and hoping for fewer greenstars to be in them
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By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 08:09:27
Here is Lux

Got him fully bolded at 9yrs and 10 months default smiley ^), just waiting on all of those comps to run now. *crosses fingers* Loving how his skills look. He will break 510-520% skills once I age him to 25 years and do the rest of his lessons default smiley (b)

*looks at Holiday Ramba* She is next but I have to come up with one more pass for the nyx pack and I will be waiting on next spring any way default smiley :p
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By kat88eclipse, 27th January 2010 09:34:35
Does anyone here do NIB barbs? Because i have a couple of 1st gen NIB foals for sale that will make over 355 GP if anyones interested? Just let me know if you are default smiley ^)
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By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 11:04:29
Forest - nice progress default smiley (y)....I'm just as impatient..I've got over ten just waiting..waiting..waiting...

Starting Right - yeah, what everyone else has just said. default smiley (lol) There are a lot of folk quick to the old whining when they don't get their way....and as far as I can tell there's no shortage of foundies in the auctions at any time. Geez...'hoarding'? ...I suppose we could turn around and accuse the green monster breeders for hoarding all the elite horses then, couldn't we?! *shakes head*. I've lost more auctions than I care to think about but the last thing on my mind is berating the winner for not letting me win.....default smiley ;) And I think it's great that you are selling some of your foals....I think it's important to spread the NIB-love

Ferret -- welcome to NIB-Land....hope you decided to join the madness...default smiley ;)

I impulsively bid on a donkey yesterday....no idea why...I didn't get it, which is just as well...default smiley (o) I did pick up an interesting NIB cross though...*hatches side-plot*

*yawn* Well, none of the comps I checked on have run overnight so I'm off to do a bit of housekeeping in the EC then it's off to the salt mines for the day.....everyone gets a day in the barn.....the lucky ones might get worked when I get home..

have a happy, all...

default smiley :-))
By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 11:46:04
Starting Right, I'm a hoarder and quite happy about it default smiley :-))
By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 11:53:13
Accusations of hoarding? Seems like some players are taking their frustration out on successful and hard-working NIBers - I would never ask someone to stop bidding on auctions, as everyone has a chance to do so. I do remember back when I was still working on NIB arabians, I used to have one player PM me a lot asking me to bid on horses for her...and not seeming to understand that I wouldn't bid and then sell to her if I wanted the horses myself.
By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 14:32:46
BUying NIB Irish hunters and PSH! pm me! will pay well!
By NTCHBL, 27th January 2010 14:58:01
Does anyone else do Paints? I need to find a 100 BLUP stallion for a cover and haven't had any luck in the breeding forums.
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By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 17:33:22
NTCHBL - I do Paints; have a breeding farm for my NIBs. Holy Grail 351.2 would be available for any 100 BLUP NIB Paint mare, but that would be the only type of mare I would do covers outside of my own farms for...
By Emberrogue, 27th January 2010 17:50:44
Rivenwood, I've been trying to contact you, please send me a PM if you haven't received mine. thx :-)
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By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 18:00:34
IC I believe I know who you are talking about. She is in my friends list. I am surprised she hasn't joined our group in here to be honest but there are a few on my list that haven't.default smiley *-)

*sigh* All but 3 of Lux's comps have finished running and only 5 wins for him default smiley xd Good thing he is immortal and I need to finish skilling him any way lol
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By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 18:10:02
Today I am determined to work with all my forever black hanos... which are quite a few now as I, like many of you, are addicted to the auctions, but at least with my personally imposed colour restriction, it makes it a little easier to not buy as many.

I've had a bit a luck with showing, but not great. I've been averaging 10 wins by the time show jumping and cross country comps are done, even with filling. (which by the way, I have a bunch of hano fillers, so if you have any hanos you are showing or horses entered in no breed comps let me know and I will be more than happy to fill)
By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 18:22:13
Does anyone here breed PSH? If yes, could you pm me? I am thinking about either starting to breed them myself or if I should sell my foundation mare. her blup is over 90 so I might start of with her...
By sleepingrose, 27th January 2010 18:26:12
My name is sleepingrose, and I'm a hoarder.

I think I would have difficulty in writing a civil reply to a message like that. Asides from my Hackneys (yes, I WILL work on them one day), I also have my TB and Connie GA collections on foundies and have started to hoard Marwaris, just incase I feel a change of breed coming on.

Right, I have a question.
What is the general consensus: fully bold, or just BLUP before breeding your NIBs?

The latter would be my preferred answer, as I spend so little time on my NIBs as it is. But if it makes a noticeable difference to foals then I guess my tactics will change.
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By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 19:02:22
I prefer to fully bold my horses before breeding but I use tears so as many skills available from the adults the better, besides, my little purple notebook I keep for myself has their maxed skills when they are done. Just little things I do for myself default smiley (lol). Now I'm not against using horses that aren't fully bolded. I believe Luxury isn't fully bolded but I got a very decent colt with nice IBS from his match-up with my 420% skilled mare Liberty (link is above for Luxurious One).
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By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 19:06:19
Oh and here is mine:

Hi......my name is Forest Queen. *moments pause for everyone to say hi*
I hoard GA horses, foundation arabians, GA ozcowrns, horses from the year 2007 and foals under the age of 6 months. I rarely do anything with my horses other than some of the arabians.

I believe that my 420 horses look at me with accusations of neglect everyday default smiley (lol)

*sigh* Well......off the the PS for more teehee default smiley (b)
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By Retired breeder, 27th January 2010 19:08:53
I hoarde curiosities! Including certain retired GA coats, some breeds/colours of foundies, rare foundies (especially unicorns). I just like collecing things. I haven't had much time for working my NIBs recently, though. I'm sure I'll come back to them soon, but for now I'm not actively doing anything as I keep forgetting to breed my unis.
By Forest Queen, 27th January 2010 19:15:59
Yes, yipee!!! and I started breeding the ozcowrns......I keep going to bed to early or getting home to late or waking up to late to do the breedings. My sleep pattern is hectic and I am always exhausted but we both agreed when we started it would be slow going. She is in school so breeding is tough for her sometimes too.
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