[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 25th December 2009 14:53:05
I'm also breeding arabians default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 25th December 2009 17:13:40
FoxxxPawz - i am breeding Friesisns
By Retired breeder, 25th December 2009 20:31:12
I'm currently breeding NIB Morgans. I actually keep record of my horses' lineage on Geni.com. It helps me make sure that I don't accidentally inbreed one of my horses, and it really helps when a horse disappears from your horse's lineage.

I bred NIB mustangs for awhile, but then I just didn't have enough time for them anymore, and I sold them all.
By Ayjay, 25th December 2009 21:09:11
Just curious.... How many Generations of a non-foundation horse does everyone go back to check for inbreeding?
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By Retired breeder, 25th December 2009 21:10:58
All the way back to Ouranous and Gaia. If I can't get all the back to Ouranous and Gaia when purchasing a horse, due to horse disappeared or something, I won't buy it.
By Ayjay, 25th December 2009 21:18:55
wow, thanks. Good job I'm off work for a few days!
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By Retired breeder, 25th December 2009 21:58:39
Ditto'd on the "all the way back to Ouranous and Gaia." That's the requirement for a NIB howrse.
By nlriver, 26th December 2009 01:27:01
.... I just picked up an NIB Marwari foal for 500e in the PS. He has no skills and will have 355.?? GP if I do proper foal games. Currently deciding what to do with him. I have saved his family tree if any of his ancestors decide to disappear... but still...

And that's what... at least 4 or 5 people breeding NIB Morgans? Wow.... That's more than I thought that there'd be. (I'm also doing the same XD)

There's probably more but haven't shown up here yet.
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By Retired breeder, 26th December 2009 04:12:05
riverdoe...

I am just starting out with Friesians, and hope to get into Arabians as soon as I find a good starting pair. After that I plan on Morgans and maybe go from there. So soon... kinda. Lol

Also, thank you to everyone for being so helpful!
By Retired breeder, 26th December 2009 09:20:15
i am searching for other dedicated nib shetland breeders...i have 4 foundi shelties and wish to expand my breeding with other players.
By Forest Queen, 26th December 2009 10:06:17
Pony, I have a few foundation shetlands in my other horses tab that I am willing to let them go for a good price if you'd like.

To those breeding connies I will slowly be selling my foundations that I have. I barely have time for my arabians so I will be letting someone who focuses on connies take care of them.

Anyone with foundie arabians they are selling please PM me default smiley ;)

I also have TONS of untouched foundation foals (various breeds) that I don't really need, just getting to 6 months to have a chance at easy aging points default smiley (lol).

PM me
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By Retired breeder, 26th December 2009 15:54:53
Forest Queen: I think that livelyblueyes wants to bou foundation connies. Maby Kaliko too?

Is there anyone else breeding NIB barbs? It would be nice to know someone in case of need of different stallions for my mares. And I still need 2 or 3 mares under the age of 3 if anyones having foundie barbs laying around default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 26th December 2009 18:09:20
I have a bunch of foundie horses of various breeds, most are young foals, untouched, that I'm looking to get rid of. I got them at great prices, so for you guys I'll let you have them basically for free LOL I just picked them up and didn't even think about it. Maybe I was subconsciously thinking of all of you!

I have:

Brumbies
Barbs
Russian Dons
Irish Hunter
Marwary
Australian Pony

All the horses are in my other horses tab, with (F) next to their names. PM me if you are interested!
By Retired breeder, 26th December 2009 18:51:21
I'm planning on breeding NIB Standardbreds as soon as my equestrian center will be ready to welcome boarders. For now I have 32 Gaïa foals that are waiting to start their training ^^
By Forest Queen, 26th December 2009 19:45:23
Binkyli kaliko99 has already contacted me default smiley ;) and I might have a barb or two lying around my other horses tab default smiley ;)
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By Retired breeder, 26th December 2009 23:20:43
Hey there everyone Im helping Obsidianmoon get our list updated..so if any new comer or if anyone has anything to change or update please let me know..it is a great way for everyone to come together we have forums there where you can come together and sell or buy howrses reproduction offers or anything else your heart desires...Help me help you guys make your time on howrse a very helpful tool in the NIB world..Thanks..default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 27th December 2009 00:13:48
Is there anybody breeding NIB throughbreds? I was wondering what the current highest GP for a NIB thoroughbred was.
By Retired breeder, 27th December 2009 02:15:43
Hatake, the current highest GP for NIB thoroughbreds is listed in the first message at the top of this page...that's what the NIB GP ranking is for default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 27th December 2009 04:33:40
Can we have our own NIB selling forum? I have some Aussie NIB's I am selling and I don't know where to post that.
By Retired breeder, 27th December 2009 04:42:52
Hi,

I help maintain the NIB List along with Starting Right. All current Howrse breeds are on the list and Howrse members breeding NIB are listed under the various breeds. Come check it out and if you're not listed, contact us to be added!

The site is http://nib-list.obsidianmoonranch.com

Take care fellow NIB breeders!
By tigrelily, 27th December 2009 05:02:40
SoubisSacrifice, great idea. I'm going to try it out.

obsidianmoon, thanks for the info. I'll check it out.

Just to let everyone know, I've set up space in my forum for breeders to find other breeders, by breed. It's too difficult in this forum. I hope it helps.
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By Retired breeder, 27th December 2009 05:40:02
My NIB GP Entry

Horse's Name: Mango
Horse's Breed: Irish Hunter
Current GP: 355.73
Link to the Horse's Page: http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=8789273

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By Reigenlief, 27th December 2009 06:22:42
I have a question to put to the NIBbers out there: If a horse disappears from a pedigree of a KNOWN NIB horse, is the horse still considered non-inbred?

I bought a mare nearly a year ago, and at the time her sire was still in her pedigree. Both horses were foundation horses, but yesterday when I was checking to see if I could use a foal of hers to breed to another mare, I discovered her sire is listed as "horse disappeared". I know she's not inbred, but what does everyone else think?
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By Forest Queen, 27th December 2009 06:27:40
Many of us, including myself, sell of most horses with a disappeared line. Even if I know that a horse is NIB with a disappeared line it is near impossible to resell the horse for any worth while amount.

There are some who keep the horses for their own line, so it is up to you how you feel about it default smiley :)
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By foxy3000123, 27th December 2009 08:11:41
I've entered my foundie stally in so many races! I'm trying to BLUP him and breed him and game the foal before Sunday is over so I can enter it in for the GP rankings. default smiley :d

I've bought a second gen stally, but now I'm worried about his parents disappearing. Is it worth the risk using him in my programme?
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