[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 16:41:40
I have a NIB barb, lots of BM's what should I stick him @?
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 16:41:41
For those of you who have been breeding NIB's for a while, what do you do with your older stock? I know that selling them can be a problem if the player quits their game and the horse disappears. I can see the value in keeping the stallions forever as they will be of value to others looking to breed their mares.

When I started my small little program a few months ago I bred my 2nd generation mare to a couple stallions owned by other players. Now I am so parinoid that they will quit their game, the horses will disappear and my foals from that line will be worthless. That's why I started buying up colts to raise.

Safe haven? Send to heaven after 30 to get pass? Keep them in limbo?

T~
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 16:45:08
id jus send to 30, but I ain't a NIB. I just H A VE one.
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 16:45:32
anyway, what should my NIB barb go for?
By Forest Queen, 23rd December 2009 16:56:08
I personally either keep my stock in limbo after I get a foal or sell to another NIBer.

riverdoe I did a happy dance for you default smiley :-))
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 17:08:26
anyone? know how much mty NIB BARB should sell for PLEASE!
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 17:28:22
Hello? Ive been waitinh awhile.default smiley :)
By nlriver, 23rd December 2009 17:55:25
If you mean your Barb foundation creamcookies...

I think you should get at least 2 passes for him. I would pay at least that, if he were my breed. He has a few good BM items.
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 19:27:35
thank you riverdoe
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 19:33:12
Theres no NIB standardbreds? default smiley (o)
Im planning on breeding them, just blupped my foundie, 351.20 GP, 403 skills, i will buy another Gaia foal soon so i can start breeding default smiley :d
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 19:45:43
I'm sure there are people breeding NIB Standardbreds...they just have not shown up here yet default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 20:48:52
*sigh* to true about the disappeared lines. Which stinks because I do provide a garauntee when I sell my NIB's. I will likely age them out myself. I would hate to get to greenstar and have them disappear. With any luck I should have my first 4g soon. OK time to get off my rear end and actually work all of my horses today. I managed to get 2 blupped yesterday and 1 is done for today.
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 20:49:33
Just a note should anyone want a foal off of any of those horses let me know today as I will age them out later tonight. ( well the ones with arms anyways)
By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 21:23:28
If anybody has any foundation PSH mares, fillies, colts, or stallions, they want to sell, please PM me ASAP. I am trying to start NIB PSHs, but I can't find any foundations to start my line with. Please no affixes.
By bluetempest, 23rd December 2009 22:54:05
http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=7789490 can someone give me advice on what to do for this little girl so i can get the full 1.2 gain for her. I'm thinking I would need to get her an orchid if so I'm going to have to wait until I can buy one. I also bought a male are there any gaming hiccups I should know about don't want a repeat of what happened to my Shetland.
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By Retired breeder, 23rd December 2009 22:59:03
bluetempest > On the schedule you use did you do the 8 month day of games etc correctly? If so then orchid her when you can. default smiley :)
By bluetempest, 23rd December 2009 23:08:34
I bought her already at 10 months. Her moral is low moral, too fat, and energy is not 100%. I tried the do games with my Shetland before I found out they have somewhat different games you have to do with them to make sure they don't get colic. I read a few post in here about some ponies getting colic and being funny eater so want all the bases covered since I never did games for a QP.
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By nlriver, 23rd December 2009 23:45:22
bluetempest: She is at least 5 hours behind what she should be. So yes, you will definitely need a BO for her, if not two. At 10 months old, after proper games at 8 months, she should have a GP of .16 and after games at ten months old, she should have .34

Unfortunately, I don't have proper games for ponies, only CraXor games... so I have no idea how you would go about gaming her. The shetland I gamed on Craxor methods ended up with colic twice, as I mentioned above. I would suggest stock up on two or three black orchids and use as needed.

To clarify, I'm aware that there are several different ways of gaming, however I usually just stick to one that works perfectly for me, even over on Caballow...
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By bluetempest, 23rd December 2009 23:55:31
If I bought two when should I give her the second one? I know you said you don't like to change what foal games you use but Daxillium has some in her? forum made just for Shetlands have not had a chance to use them yet but the other games I have tried have worked and I only use those games.
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By nlriver, 24th December 2009 00:03:16
Basically, I would suggest that when you place her in an EC, if she is overweight, don't feed her. Game her as much as you can, and then give her a BO, then game again until she is at 22.00 but don't go past that. Also remember to bed in the meadow, as that will give her 94 energy/95 morale tomorrow morning.

As for the second BO, basically kinda do the same thing when she's 1 year old. If you groom, play 1 hour, feed - don't put in meadow at all - then game until she's low in energy again, give an orchid, then game until 22:00.

I will have a look at Daxilliums forum and see what she should be according to her schedule.

Also, someone has posted about managing to get the 1.2 gain on a badly gamed foal. I wish I could remember who it was, but they managed it with 3 BOs and they got the gain halfway through the last day at 1 year 6 months.
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By Retired breeder, 24th December 2009 00:31:16
I just picked up an untouched hano colt in the PS for a great price. I'm so excited that I need to go start training him LOL
By Retired breeder, 24th December 2009 05:06:59
Pintar, I have foundie PSH's, but i am looking for passes for them...
By Retired breeder, 24th December 2009 08:00:28
okay, training for the new hano baby has no begun, because he desperately needs an EC that doesn't have disgusting meadows.

Is anyone here willing to take him for four days? Seems like ya'll are the best to turn to when it comes to this. I'm not picky and I'll pay max price.
By Retired breeder, 24th December 2009 08:11:06
Hello all. default smiley :) I'm just starting out with NIB breeding and had a question.

I am worried that my NIB horses will be no good if someone owning one of their parents, grandparents, etc quits. I have been told that, 'Horse Disappeared,' in a pedigree makes the horse worthless as a NIB. However up above it says they are still accepted if the horse was bought before their pedigree got marked and it can be verified that it was pure.

My question is, how do I go about getting my NIB horses' pedigrees, verified?

I only have one right now, Ribbon, and her pedigree is clean. But I'm not sure how to... safegaurd her for the future.

Thanks for any help. default smiley ^)
By Retired breeder, 24th December 2009 08:13:47
Oh! I had one more question.

Foundies are NIB horses, and their offspring are considered NOB as well. (If they are pure of course)

But do unicorn rejects count? I mean, her pedigree is pure, but it is also all unicorns so I'm unsure if she is accepted as a NIB?
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