[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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Reminder to all.

Please do not advertise sales or items wanted in this topic. I can turn a blind eye to the covers being offered (as long as they are not blatant advertisements) because we are, after all, trying to help each other progress and there is no filter on public covers for searching for crosses, but items sales and items wanted do not belong in any of the public forums and we have a sales forum for horse sales so please, lets keep our topic clean of the ads.

Thanks everyone

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Thank you
zepharo

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By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 15:57:43
Lol. I just have to BLUP the Appy mare over the next few days to start my Noko/Appy speedsters, then maybe I'll do like my Crio/KWPN and Crio/Selle lines and cross to get Noko/Appy/Stangs.
By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 16:33:34
I did pick up a couple nice crosses in the sales yesterday! I would link them but I don't remember how lol! But I have to find them in my zoo of fillers and everything else. I'll have to organize everything before I get started lol
By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 16:42:27


Lol. Links work like this, but you gotta take the asterisks out. There's also a chain-looking thing above the text when you're typing if you're on a computer. [u*rl=http://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=49607712][/u*rl]
By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 16:54:14
Awesome, thank you! I'll go find them, and post some links and I'd love to hear your thoughts!
By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 16:58:03
No problem! Can't wait to see them!
Just bred this scorcher seeing as Cosmic came out so well, decided to use tears default smiley (y)
Vessel
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I have been working on various real-world registered crossbreeds (Howrse unofficial though). default smiley ;) Some of them comp pretty well, as I pick quality horses from sales and/or get elite team covers. Many post in the elite boards for their dominant breed. I'm still looking for project buddies on some of them. These crossbreeds include:


- Appendix Quarter Horse (QH x TB): ☰Aρρєndix ★ QH☰
- Azteca (QH / Criollo >Paint x PSH / Lusitano): ₪-Azᴛᴇcᴀ Fuᴇʀᴛᴇ-₪
- Warlander (PSH / Lusitano x Friesian): Wᴀʀʟᴀɴᴅєʀ † Vᴀʟoʀ
- Nez Perce (Appaloosa x Akhal-Teke, App dom. for color): •°● Mᴀ'ᴀmιɴ Oʀιgιɴs
- Pony of the Americas (App, Shetland, Arabian-- App dom. for color): .•:Pony Of Americas:•.
- Anglo-Arabian (Shagya x TB) ╰⊰Aɳglσ-Arabiaɳs⊱╮
- Quarab (Shagya x QH>Paint) : ◄Qυᴀʀᴀʙ Excᴇʟʟoʀѕ►
- Morab (Morgan x Arabian) : (Moʀᴀʙ ✦ Vιᴛᴀʟιᴛу)
- Welara (Welsh x Arabian): Ⱳeℓαɾα ✨ ᔕρυɳk
- Pintabian (Paint x Arabian/Shagya, Paint dom. for color) Piηtabiaη ✱ Ʀoots
- AraAppaloosa (App x Arabian/Shagya, App dom. for color): •°●Aɾappaloosas●。•

- Spanish Barb (Barb / PSH / Lusitano): Sραɳish ✶ ßαrbs
- Spanish Mustang (Mustang / PSH / Lusitano / Barb): Spᴀɳish ❖ Mυstᴀɳgs
- Sorraia Mustang (Mustang / Lusitano / PSH / Barb): https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/affixe?id=1681082

More details on my page and in affix descriptions. ^_^
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Sorry for bad link there-- Try again: default smiley ;)

- Sorraia Mustang (Mustang / Lusitano / PSH / Barb): |Soʀʀᴀιᴀ ☀ Avιvᴀ|
Fivinyn784
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Holy wow! I can't wait to see how far you go with all of these crosses!
westernsky
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Sorry for double posting but the Pintabian has always been my favorite Part-Arab default smiley (7)
westernsky
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default smiley ;) Plenty on my plate, that's for sure. default smiley (lol) Thanks! Always looking for breeding buddies with access to good stock. Holler if anyone else interested. I also offer foals (including custom foal orders) for anyone just looking to dabble in one as a side project. Some of them are lots of fun. ^_^
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Thought I recognised your affixes! One of your stallions is my Harlem's sire default smiley ^) Great horses you've got
Vessel
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Oh yea! Rabble's a good one. The Morabs are an interesting bunch. default smiley ^) Nice foalie you've got there. Good work!

Thanks horsesrule!
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So just a quick question for a project I think I'm going to start working on... I know how to achieve an equal 4-way cross, but is there anyway to achieve an equal 5-way?
westernsky
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That would take a few generations. Notbob and I did a perfect 33.3% cross and it took 12 or 13 blups. Let me see if I can do the math for a perfect 20% cross.
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Yep. I bred this horse. It's 20% of 5 breeds shown. I'd have to dig for a minute to see how I did that as it was towards the end of a larger project so I wasn't paying attention to the percentages I was getting along the way
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Ok, here's a better example. He's only 3 gens down. He's the great grand something or other of the other horse. There may be a better/easier way to do this, but if you look at his family tree his parents are both even 4 ways of different breeds. I bred the two parents together and got him, an even 20% across 4 breeds. He took all 4 breeds of the sire and only one breed from the dam.
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By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 20:18:15


I remember when that was a common topic for us. I tried a little before I disappeared. Hm... I'll have to try again if I can decide 3 good breeds for it.
Thank you so much, guys, super helpful!
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Here's the spreadsheet I used for the 33.3% cross.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9J-HPbdpywViLZG4sEjkDfsFdmBPc2tblDPk3uMzuw/edit?usp=sharing

Sheet 2 is called 20%. It has my attemp at math, but I think I need to start over, lol.
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See, I was trying to do it the hard way keeping only 5 breeds. I forgot howrse just deleted the extra breeds and made them all 20% when you do a perfect 8-way cross! lol. I even did one recently.

Here's my perfect 8-way cross turned 5-way
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I'm here if you want to try it again! We can use my paints if you want default smiley ;). Maybe TB x QH x Paint? Or I think I can get Appy covers if you want to do TB x Paint x Appy.
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By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 20:46:24


I was gonna play with TB/Vanner/KWPN (since I already have a TB/Vanner BLUPed), but I didn't even check what whackjob skillset I'd get from that. TB/Paint/Appy sounds like fun if you can get the Appy cover. And I've got a 7150 GP TB mare sitting over here that we could use if we wanted to.
By Retired breeder, 3rd November 2016 20:47:49
Picked up this guy too Similar skill set, but I need something to get me started again lol
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