[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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Please do not advertise sales or items wanted in this topic. I can turn a blind eye to the covers being offered (as long as they are not blatant advertisements) because we are, after all, trying to help each other progress and there is no filter on public covers for searching for crosses, but items sales and items wanted do not belong in any of the public forums and we have a sales forum for horse sales so please, lets keep our topic clean of the ads.

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By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 18:34:20


Beautiful foal and congratulations
By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 19:51:29
Got all training and wins for Bound for Glory. Now he just has to hit 10 years old.
By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 21:07:45
what do you think about Glory of Fire to breed with Bound for Glory ?
By Starry-Eyed, 30th April 2016 21:15:27


I mean, you'll probably get the same or a very similar to both parents since they're, in essence, the same cross.
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By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 21:46:44
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was hoping to increase skills if I broke down and purchased the tears with equus at least. What do you think would be a good mix in? KWPN? Mawari? or Selle Fran? (lol sorry forgot how to spell the last part of the selle's name)
By Starry-Eyed, 30th April 2016 22:04:17
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Depends what you're wanting to improve.
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By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 22:31:07
Hey all, is there any way I can narrow my searches for cross foals in the auctions/direct sales? Im looking to buy a ton of higher GP ones and clear out some of my old ones.

Thanks in advance default smiley (l)
By Starry-Eyed, 30th April 2016 22:35:57


Filter by above the GP you want and above the skills you want, then under more criteria, double click on the check mark next to the Pure Breed criteria.
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By Legacy Ann, 30th April 2016 22:41:14

You'll want to avoid KWPNs unless it's diluted in a cross. Their stamina is wretched
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By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 22:51:05
Looking to get higher skills altogether. Not necessarily looking to raise or lower any in particular. Trying to create my own skiller I want to win rosettes and possible even at least get closer to winning the grand prix.
By Legacy Ann, 30th April 2016 23:10:49
If you're looking to win rosettes I'd focus on the horse's top 3 skills, so I'd try going for a reining horse if you're wanting to build off of one or both of those horses you posted. Of the three reining skill set horses on the game a Lipizzan cross would probably be your best bet since their GP is higher than the other two. Or easiest to get in sales and covers at any rate.

So I would check out where the top Lipizzans are at in their stamina, gallop and dressage skills, then work on breeding a cross that will be competitive with that mark
And...that description now sounds really vague and unhelpful. Good job medefault smiley (lol)
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By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 23:27:31


That is helpful. It gives me a place to start. Bound for Glory seems to be best at Barrel racing than reining though. Lol
By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 23:40:05
Would it hurt the skills if the GP of the mare is a few hundred under the GP of the Stallion
By Serpentine, 30th April 2016 23:46:03


Breeding a pair with the GPs so far between each other will likely produce a foal with GP in the middle of the two, which means it won't improve in ways of GP and will have lower IBS in comparison to a foal with higher GP.
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By Legacy Ann, 30th April 2016 23:46:27
Since his speed is low he can see lower difficulty barrel races. If you're wanting rosettes though he'll have to be high in all three skills needed for that comp in order to win. Although... you could try to work it so your final foal will have insanely high gallop and stamina, but only enough speed to see barrel rosettes. It works for my Ocean once in a while, but I don't think non-divines are capable yet of the skills proportions he sometimes gets, so I'm not sure how far you'd progress with the current GP stats on the game. Be a fun project though
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By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 23:52:56
OK perhaps another cross? With higher GP and similar skill set?
By Retired breeder, 30th April 2016 23:57:32
I was thinking half brother and sister bred together since similar skills set Wii bring GP and skills higher for rosettes, but may just cancel each other out too.
By Legacy Ann, 1st May 2016 00:20:57
Sigh...that talk of all GP stats over 1000 has got me doing calculations on my spreadsheet till my eyes are crossed. I wanted to see how close you could get to that goal with the current top GPs on the game and I've actually gotten quite close. However, the breeds with the skill sets I need just aren't high enough yet to help balance things out. Either that, or there just aren't enough high trot breeds in the game. At least not trot breeds with good all round GP. The Paso is currently the only 4-way trotting breed.

But since the GPs I've been testing are horses at number 10 for their breeds I wouldn't have access to those coverings anywaydefault smiley xd
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By Retired breeder, 1st May 2016 00:28:02
[quote=1403173239]Sigh...that talk of all GP stats over 1000 has got me doing calculations on my spreadsheet till my eyes are crossed. I wanted to see how close you could get to that goal with the current top GPs on the game and I've actually gotten quite close. However, the breeds with the skill sets I need just aren't high enough yet to help balance things out. Either that, or there just aren't enough high trot breeds in the game. At least not trot breeds with good all round GP. The Paso is currently the only 4-way trotting breed.

But since the GPs I've been testing are horses at number 10 for their breeds I wouldn't have access to those coverings anywaydefault smiley xd[/quotlol I have not even gotten close to number 10 yet lol. That will take lots of work which I don't mind one bit putting in.
By Retired breeder, 1st May 2016 00:29:17
Grrr kills phone lol
By Retired breeder, 1st May 2016 01:27:49


I have not even gotten close to number 10 yet lol. That will take lots of work which I don't mind one bit putting in.

hopefully it works right this time default smiley xd
By Retired breeder, 1st May 2016 01:33:56
Aged her up to 2 years so far let me know what you all think.

Glory of Fire
By MadameEquus, 1st May 2016 15:27:25
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The only way to win the GP is by working with the top tier teams and creating a super cross. It was done a few times last year with the top QH and Top Wari teams to make a super Reining horse, before Lippis took over.

For a Rosette horse in reining, you need more Gallop. I would try a Lippi x QH cross bred to Bound for Glory since that one has the higher GP. Beach your skiller for Gallop.
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By Retired breeder, 1st May 2016 15:57:22
@equestrienne1979 Thank you for the suggestion. I will see if I can find a good mare of that cross. The top teams would probably want passes which I am a non pass buyer. I believe it can be done it will just take a lot more hard work and lot more time than just jumping to the top teams to do it. LOL only thing about being divorced the money sucks default smiley (lol)
By Retired breeder, 1st May 2016 18:24:05
welcome my newest cross addition. Sweetheart . I am going to BLUP her and breed her back to a Lippizan and work on getting the gp up on them and when I get a filly I am happy with I will BLUP her and breed her back to Bound for Glory. default smiley :)
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