[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 02:44:09
i'm working on Mustangs that will be great at Show jumping. any tips for training a Austrailian pony/ Irish Hunter horse?(thats what tthe foal will be)
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 03:15:04
wow i just had the strangest luck. i went into our kichen and smelt brownies baking and desicied that if the foal my mare was going to have was a dark color it would be named Baking Brownies. i was also hoping it would be a girl. My mare foaled and the foal was:

female
liver chestnut

talk about luck!
lol that's freaky default smiley xd

Okay, I'm thinking about mixing a fjord in with my dressage/barrel horses, cause I noticed that they have a good amount of stars in speed, but I don't want the GP to go down to lower than 700 D:

What to do?
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By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 03:23:42
yay someone else is posting!

hmm i would wait for the breed to develop. or breed a dressage/barrel horse to a fjord then breed the foal in to the horses. i'm not sure if it will work but it might
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 03:24:15
got to go bye!
True, I could just wait til the GP goes up, and possibly until someone mixes frizz into it.
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By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 04:03:27
I bred a fjord to a 795 GP mare and the result was a 7* foal. The GP won't reach over 700 even in the top crossed fjords for a while yet.
I don't think I would be looking for a pure one just yet [I sure don't have the patience for it]
But if it is crossed, I will need over 700GP, if you get that, could you PM me or something?
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By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 05:43:46
I just produced a 25* 789.98 cross with really good over all skills, im very proud of it but I didnt use tears so Im going to pop it in the sales and see if I can do even better default smiley :)
What are everyone's thoughts on outcrossing? That is, crossbreeding horses, and then breeding them back to a pure horse until they show up as "pure" again?

I ask because this happened, very very recently, to my breeding group. I won't name names, but you can figure it out for yourselves what breed I'm the elite of.

The skills are wrong, and it isn't truly a "pure" horse, even though it shows up as such. How will this affect the skills of the later horses? Will it eventually, like all crossbreds, start gaining less GP as time goes on? default smiley (o)
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By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 05:57:54
I was wondering the same Mazerath! I am currently breeding Brumby crosses because I wanted their Dressage GP to go up. But now I see that the elite purebred horses have a pretty good dressage GP, and now dressage is better than trot and that hasn't been like that before. They were crossbreeding them and now they show up as purebreds again...
I noticed the same with Brumbies, blueberry, and I did some digging in the elite's line of ponies. They jump GPs suddenly at several points, and you're right about the dressage. It used to be their worst skill and now it is their best. Not pointing any fingers, but it's just my observation... default smiley *-) default smiley (8)
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By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 06:40:52
hhmmm that would seem to me to be a way of breeding different lines of a breed with different traits, very interesting stuff
Perhaps. But isn't there some built-in bug? Like fractions of a skills would end up with no gain in certain areas.
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There was some discussion in the GP Talk thread quite awhile ago about breeding crosses back to pure....apparently the skills will eventually revert to the "true" skills of the horse. I would have to go back and reread the thread but the waffle is pretty thick and I don't have the time.....default smiley (lol)
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But if you breed to horses of the same breed lineage, the skill will remain top without going to other purebred studs who have jump as their lowest.
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By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 13:28:19
Look at who I just foaled: Chocolate WonderIm quite happy with herdefault smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 13:43:32
Ok, so I just saw one of these crossbred purebred Brumbys that had 17 stars. Less than a month ago they were still at 7 stars and no crossbreeding with dressage as the worst skill. I know that the GP race is going pretty fast, but 10 stars and a switch from dressage to trot as the worst skill in less than a month seems a bit strange to me...
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 13:56:10
I recently made a cross between IH and Standie, presenting as Standie. Blupped her and covered 4 times. Newfie, Shetland, Fjord and Canadian.

With Newfie, Shetland and Canadian I wanted to create a trotter foal. With Fjord I wanted to get better GP and dressage.

I also have an adult mare, trotter Newfie, crossbred with Standie. She's 650+ GP and the newborn foals are 540+ for the Fjord and the rest over 700.

If someone else is working on creating trotters out of those breeds (and crossbreeding Fjords), you are welcome to drop me a line and a friend request.default smiley ;) I haven't been much online lately, apart from the past few days. And will have an offline period also in the future. So my breeding isn't really that active, and these are mainly just skilling projects / competition horses.
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 14:01:17
diome I'v tried crossing frisians and fjords yesterday. But I used my frisian found mare so the turnout isn't that greatdefault smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 14:02:53
My beautiful new filly

She has a rare Cremello coat and I am very impressed with her IBS!
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 14:05:00
That filly is impressive Cherokee. Any comments on mine? I'm quite proud of herdefault smiley ^)
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 14:06:05
Thanks Mingy! I know her IBS may not be amazing but from 216 IBS with are last generation we are very happy with 224!
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 14:08:30
No, I think her IBS is quite good. Or at least better than minedefault smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 17th June 2010 14:09:45
Well we have worked pretty hard on this all star QH line
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