[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 18th February 2010 17:02:24
Yeah, besides the 20 wins and top three bolded your howrse has to be 10 years old.

I've bolded and had wins on more than a few before that point... you get a gain of about 0.33 BLUP every 2 months age just for them being older. That's why 0 GP breeders have to breed right at 2 years 6 months-- otherwise the BLUP continues to rise and that's not something they want.
By Retired breeder, 18th February 2010 17:04:03
Dreamin in Class is getting closer to the magical 20...he's now at 12 wins. I figured out that now that he's nearly maxed out on barrels, his stats are pretty good to go right into show jumping and kick butt, even though he's toting around a Centaur saddle, haha.

One of my fillies just gamed oer to 358...should be a bit higher by the time she's done, so that's very exciting!!

Sheza Class Act, my foundation mare, is now around 23 years old...she's in gestation right now and I'm hoping that I can get one more out of her. She's been in good health so I don't think it will be an issue.

Haven't had much time to do any work on the stud book--I plan to make little banners that all submitting breeders can link from their own pages, as well as perhaps custom banners for their horses for their own presentations as well. If anyone is interested in banners or avatars, please let me know and we can work something out...
By Rymskynx, 18th February 2010 17:23:28
Down to 10 wins left to go for my best Newfie stallion Quest for Tyme, can't wait for him to get to 100 BLUP so I can breed him. default smiley ;)
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By Retired breeder, 18th February 2010 19:27:16
Will he be available for outside breeding, Rymskynx? default smiley ;)
By Rymskynx, 18th February 2010 19:59:31
Yes freedomreins he will, as of now I don't limit any of my studs to just my mares. default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 18th February 2010 23:08:17
Just born, new 2nd generation (4 foundation based) in my Forever Black line. Quite happy with 361.79 before games... just shy of 363 after games. First foal in a while, now back to work getting some more!
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 00:56:22
good job always! I haven't breed a foal in forever. Off to finish gaming my recently aquired Pasos...default smiley (y)default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 01:15:13
Anyone on who can help fill paint comps?

PM me
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 01:56:28
Rymskynx -- oh goodie!!!! Caoimhe will be waiting....default smiley (lol)

Um...yes, I know about the 10 years thing...default smiley :p.....the thing was that despite being bolded etc. before age 10... ye olde blup-bar didn't fill to 100 until she was about 10 and 2 months...once the fourth skill was bolded...Not that it matters...she's done!

I find the less I obsess the better they seem to do....random neglect is apparently a great motivator...default smiley (lol)

SBKR -- I'd be happy to put one of your banners on my page....anything for the pro-NIB crowd...default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 01:57:59
Selling a lot of my high GP 100% NIB Friesians. Prices are semi flexible.
By westwindangel, 19th February 2010 03:06:27
Hey everybody default smiley (l)

Happy Ending now has 21 wins, thanks to all who filled default smiley :) Note for further sales--- I will sell when I am 3 generations ahead of my sales. So that means when I get to the 4th generation, I'll sell my foundie, Happy Ending. Then when I get to the 5th generation, I'll sell the second-generation foals. But after that, they will no longer be worth anything for NIB. default smiley :'(

PM me if you want to make offers on Happy Ending. She'll make about 400 skills.
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By westwindangel, 19th February 2010 03:29:55
OK, this is awkward default smiley (lol) Age 13 and about 376 skills. This means I'll be doing lessons until age 25 to get the most skills default smiley xd Then a covering, and then... foals! default smiley :d So when she's 25 I'll tell you guys how many skills she has.
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By foxy3000123, 19th February 2010 08:53:02
358.05 GP!

My best GP from a foundie x foundie. default smiley :-)) Really pleased with her, both parents were 100 BLUP but they had different GPs. Her sire had 351.20, but her mum only had 350.34.
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By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 09:02:28
Well done on the foals guys!

I'm really confused, this mare has more than 20 wins, she's bolded her 3 best skills, and she's 19 years old. Anyone have any idea why she's not at 100 BLUP?

http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=1461218
By foxy3000123, 19th February 2010 09:05:05
You haven't bolded gallop, which is one of her top 3 skills. default smiley :d
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By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 09:05:35
Oh really? I thought they were dressage, speed and jumping! Okay then, that explains it. Thanks!
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 11:45:01
lovely foal -foxy!!

I think it was Inner Chorus who told us that the GP result of two foundies is also influenced by the top GP in the game of that breed -- which is a very nice bone for the green monsters to be throwing us, I'd say....default smiley (lol)

Congrats on your BLUP freedomreins!!!
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 11:50:42
Wow, breaking 358 is fantastic, well done!

(I haven't been in here much recently and have barely touched my ponies... I know, I am a bad NIBer!)
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 13:20:20
*one thousand lashes with a wet noodle for Inner Chorus* default smiley (lol) I've been following your quest for a Sleipnir -- a most excellent adventure, I must say -- congratulations!! I'm sure your ponies understand....default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 13:47:24
I think they're jealous, heh.

I will start working on them again soon, though - I often go through phases of not touching them and then madly NIBing again.
By Lady Leurona, 19th February 2010 14:00:08
I have a horrible habit of buying more than I use.... I guess that's one good thing about a personal NIB project. Foundation GPs don't exactly expire!
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By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 14:02:26
default smiley (lol) Me too....I waffle over giving up entirely only to come back and have a burst of success which is enough to keep me going....

Hmph...it seems That Horse is back in the showjumping comps again...just as I have a couple ready to enter. default smiley (li) Guess I'll go into my Random Neglect Phase for a few days 'til it clears out....default smiley ;)
By bluetempest, 19th February 2010 15:05:59
Prince 351.20 It been a while but finally decided to dig into my pile of foundations and work some of them. I love doing foal games for foundations just wish his suppose to be mate would come out a little better. Need BO for her default smiley :(
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By Retired breeder, 19th February 2010 15:37:54
If anyone is able to fill Hano shows please message me or post - I am always willing to return filling for any breed at any level.

Currently looking for hano fillers in 18-21% Show Jumping and 53-54% Show Jumping

If you need fillers just send me a message or post with the breed, show type and difficulty and I will fill for you!
By Rymskynx, 19th February 2010 15:41:11
Yay, my Newfie stally Quest for Tyme (GP 362.60) is finally done! Now I just have to finish his mare Fay Flourite (GP 360.11) so I can breed them. default smiley ;) Hope everyone else is having good luck with the comps today!
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