[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By westernsky, 7th June 2020 15:33:40
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My NIB GP Entry

Horse's Name: Nautilus
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Holsteiner (rolling GP)
Current GP: 4609.18 (404*)
Link to the Horse's Page
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By Twinjodi, 7th June 2020 21:26:37


So yes, but primarily we only do purebred lines/genetics for NIB since crossbreeding has it's own forum. But that being said, everyone has their own projects default smiley :)
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By Twinjodi, 7th June 2020 22:50:39
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Chen M 5409.48¹
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Marwari
Current GP: 5409.48 (1st Gen, 484*)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=63271524

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Oman¹
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Newfoundland
Current GP: 5344.57 (1st Gen, 478*)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=63062712
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By GaiaGeek, 4th July 2020 04:09:44
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I am back after long hiatus, my old account was deleted from inactivity. My former login was bumblesmama (actually if you look early in this post, 2011 or so, I am talking about my NIB Arab project).

Anyway, I thought I would do an NIB Curly project. How do I find foundies in the sales with the new GP changes? I had a HNIB project back in the day, just wondering if that is even possible now?

I am relearning the terminology, so bear with me, and trying to find other NIBers to be friends with.
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By GaiaGeek, 15th July 2020 21:03:35
I am trying to start a new NIB project, my only experience with NIB projects was an HNIB project I did with original 350/351.2GP foundies a long time ago.

Trying to find foundies is challenging if the base value changes with time as foundies are added to the game.

Is there a post or EC forum somewhere that keeps a current (not sure if it needs to be daily) base GP for foundies?
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By Retired breeder, 16th July 2020 01:55:53
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You can find out what the current foundie GP is by going to a horse breed's page. The green star skill distribution at the bottom should reflect what the foundie GP for that day is. Not sure if the GP itself changes based upon breed though.
By bigiron, 16th July 2020 04:41:39
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hey all! the other day i tracked down 3 NIB horses in the sales so i can start on this project. i have some other projects as well, and i don't spend money on this game, so it'll be slow going but i just wanted to say hello as an aspiring NIB breeder!
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By DarkLightning, 16th July 2020 12:22:54
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Very interesting I don’t think I am a dedicated nib but I like the idea of it so I might help contribute as I like the idea and the fun of it. Also just recently snagged a few priceless unicorn foundations and just had born 2 nib unicorn foals I’m so happy, I also have a few breeds of foundies so if anything I can sorta help if people need it
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By GaiaGeek, 19th July 2020 01:07:13
@ dααé

Thanks for the tip. Yes, that is the exact place to look for current found base GP.
I sampled a bunch of different breeds and they all have the same base GP, so that answers that.

As if today the base GP of foundies is 5652.
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By cheeriobaby26, 23rd July 2020 02:43:44
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This is my 2nd gen unicorn! I'll be getting a 3rd gen going as soon as I BLUP my 2nd gen fillies!


My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Cassava G2
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Shire
Current GP: 4919.20 (2nd gen, 436*)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=64193511
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By ʀoo, 24th July 2020 15:52:26
Looking to purchase breeding stock for Lipizzans. 350 GP only.
Please PM me if you are selling. Thanks!
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By slohman1018, 27th July 2020 02:45:14
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I live in the US and it is still Sunday here. This horse was born a while ago, but I just remembered to update. He is a 3rd gen Friesian from High GP foundation stock.

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Keaunuk (colt)
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Friesian
Current GP: 4608.48 (3rd gen, 404*)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=61119302
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By Gaited Splendor, 30th July 2020 01:20:29
I've got a collection of Barbs, 9 foundations plus 3 generations (4 horses). I'd like to pass these on to someone who will appreciate the work I've put into them and take them farther than I will. If you'd like to discuss, please DM me. Thanks!
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By westernsky, 30th July 2020 16:00:24
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Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone had any NIB Hanos, TBs, Arabs, or Welshes that they are looking to rehome?
I am starting a fun, NIB side project that requires all 4 breeds and haven't seen many in the sales that aren't under 1,000 passes! The horses don't have to be a certain age or skill level or anything as long as they are NIB.

Let me know please!
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By Driananium, 11th August 2020 16:21:32
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DM me if anyone wants a 100 BLUP PSH Unicorn new foundie
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By Twinjodi, 23rd August 2020 21:29:59
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Paraguay
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Newfoundland
Current GP: 5348.05 GP, 1st Gen 477 Stars
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=64357294
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By Twinjodi, 23rd August 2020 21:32:44
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Delightful Belle
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter Unicorn
Current GP: 5459.61 GP, 1st Gen, 490*
Link to the Horse's Page: http://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=63869207
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By Twinjodi, 28th August 2020 00:13:54
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For anyone wanting to breed the newer percherons, GP is in the 5100s.
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By Hologram, 28th August 2020 00:26:29
How far back in the family tree is considered NIB? I'm guessing the whole thing however some family trees take ages to search through.
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By Twinjodi, 28th August 2020 16:14:41
Yeah the whole family tree. The members that NIB usually will use spreadsheets to keep track of everyone and their lineage to have it in one location but starting out unfortunately you do just have to track it horse by horse.
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By Hologram, 28th August 2020 20:27:20
ah okay, might have to just buy a foundie stallion then, thanks!
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By westernsky, 31st August 2020 15:46:20
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I definitely recommend using stallions and mares that you own too because you never know when a player is going to quit, causing you to lose like half your blood line if you use outside stallions! (It's happened to me and it's the worst!)
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By Hologram, 3rd September 2020 21:08:36
Yea I can imagine. Unfortunately, I don't have a foundie stallion in my collection default smiley :(
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By cealpana, 7th September 2020 21:01:10
I'm looking to start a new foundie project just for fun, anyone have any ideas how I could find foundies in the direct sales? I've been randomly seeing some cheap ones the past couple weeks and looking today I wasn't able to find any that weren't way too expensive. Thanks!
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By Misabel, 8th September 2020 01:24:04
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The ranking should be updated soon, guys. I missed some time due to some pesky Real Life stuff.

Also, since there is always some confusion....for the purpose of the rankings, a 'first generation' NIB is the foal of two foundies, not the foundies themselves. Foundies are essentially 'gen zero', since they are generated by the game and not 'bred' by a player. So if you submitted a horse and the gen in the rankings doesn't appear to match up, that's why!

Of course, since NIBing is an informal thing and not an official game activity, you can number generations however you wish to within your own program. There's no 'wrong' way, really. It's just a matter of keeping things uniform in the main post above.
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