[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Storms Ransome, 13th April 2020 15:25:30


The disappeared lines is why I don't buy 1st Gen NIB horses from who I don't know that breed them. Because if that line were to disappear, I'd have to start all over again and that would be really frustrating.
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By Nyghtraven, 13th April 2020 16:03:00
Well, one thing I've started doing, when I do buy a second gen is to take screenshots of the pedigrees. Then I just keep them in one of my folders on my desktop if I need them for future reference.

But, since I've got fewer resources for grabbing tons of first gen ouranos/gaia horses from sales, I tend to have more use for second gens when I find them.
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By Storms Ransome, 13th April 2020 18:06:36


People used to screen shot too, but there was trust issues with the screenshots because of the ability to photoshop them. So we never relied on that tactic either.
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By Nyghtraven, 13th April 2020 18:59:22
Perhaps, I think it'd be entirely too much trouble to try to match things exactly enough to photoshop it, but that's just me.

Hopefully, I can eventually build up enough of a foundation group that I won't need outside born second gens, but right now the lack of resources is killing me. Can't compete with wealthy players for foundation horses in sales for the breeds I need.
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By Twinjodi, 13th April 2020 19:08:12
It seems to update about every two to three weeks or so.
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By tigrelily, 15th April 2020 02:09:02


The original foundation horses have GPs of 350 (unplayed) to 352.1 (played games).
I set the GP for 352 when I'm hunting original foundies.

If the games were played correctly the GP will be 352.1; it'll be less if not played all the way or done incorrectly.
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By Storms Ransome, 15th April 2020 04:25:03
Played games gave you a GP of 351.2
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By eruraven, 16th April 2020 02:38:31
Anyone else here collecting the Draft unis? I'm trying to get enough to NIB them but they are expensive. *sighs*
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By Nyghtraven, 16th April 2020 04:21:36
Yeah I've been trying to get some, as well as my regular drafts. But yes they are expensive.
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By Storms Ransome, 16th April 2020 09:12:32


I haven't talked to you, in forever!
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By eruraven, 16th April 2020 21:24:56


Well now I don't feel so lonely in my quest to collect uni drafts.


Yeah my activity on here became limited due to trying to do work type things but that isn't exactly an issue anymore.
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By Asfridur, 17th April 2020 13:37:31

Me 3
But yea failing. Their just too expensive
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By Twinjodi, 18th April 2020 22:27:29
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https://www.howrse.com/centre/forum/?id=407892

I've decided to turn my EC center into a centralized NIB forum, so please feel free to visit.

I have begun another ACTIVE NIB breeder list so please feel free to pm me your information so I can add you in!

This will hopefully help everyone know who they can help out!
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By Retired breeder, 18th April 2020 22:40:04
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Link to Twinjodi's forum

Copy this link into a format pasteable into any forum by copying the below text and removing the "*"s.

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By ‘quest, 19th April 2020 20:26:01
Pondering over something.

How can we track the new GP when its a rolling gain? So If I was to restart my game today I would get a high GP correct?

So how does it make it fair ground when trying to compare? Or is this one of many reasons as to why NIB is slowing dying?
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By Storms Ransome, 19th April 2020 21:02:42
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It's dyed quite a bit since RG foundations appeared.
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By ‘quest, 19th April 2020 21:10:53
Can kind of see why. It must be so difficult to get wins now with O GP without using fillers all the time.

And then the new GP seems kind of hard to track.

Ive always NIBed when playing this so Im finding it really hard for what else to do default smiley (8)

I also cant believe how expensive everything has got, like some players must be paying a fortune for all the subscriptions, employees, divines etc.
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By Axel'sMommy, 19th April 2020 21:26:54
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It's not fair ground, which is why we separate the OG (350-351.2 GP) from RG (anything else).

It died a lot after the change. Many put a lot of money into their projects and Howrse changing it to RG was a huge slap in the face to us.
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By ｆｌｉｃｋｅｒ, 19th April 2020 21:37:18
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: lonely
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Hackney
Current GP: 608.80
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=62831912
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By ‘quest, 19th April 2020 21:41:57


But even separating them , because the RG GP is forever improving as such its hard to then track. I could spend months breeding/BLUPing to produce a 1G horse that has say 8 GP (I know its not possible just easier numbers) then because of the way the new GP works someone could come along new to the game and there foundation would have say 10 GP.

So how does that work?

Im sure it was. Seems a lot of people are unhappy with all the changes from what I can find from having a little smooch.
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By Asfridur, 20th April 2020 05:19:51
My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Silentando
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Drum horse (5th gen)
Current GP: 2331.87
Link to the Horse's Page: link
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By Asfridur, 20th April 2020 05:21:32
...darn ok ignore my above post ... posted to late I recon.
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By Twinjodi, 20th April 2020 16:38:34
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I can go into detail later but quest that is basically why there are now starrage and gens behind the horses to be able to compare projects.
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By ‘quest, 22nd April 2020 21:00:44
Do people still use peoples studs?

If so where can we advertise?

Thank you default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 22nd April 2020 23:05:14

There is an (unofficial) howrse discord server, you could advertise there.
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