[Info] Cross breeders

By Retired breeder, 3rd April 2010 20:13:43
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Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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By Retired breeder, 28th March 2016 19:53:40
So if I had the top three skills I wanted, but not in the correct order, if I switched around the dominant breed I might get it?
Moon, I'm dreading the day when they hit 10 000 GP default smiley :s
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I'd suggest doing calculations first.default smiley :)
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I am no expert, but that should work in theory, though you might want to test it out to make sure.Worst thing that might happen is your top three skills might even out.
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Serpentine
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Do you mean a horse or the actual calculations?

I don't have an actual horse, but I would be happy to do more calculations.default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 28th March 2016 22:27:25
I would greatly appreciate seeing calculations. I was never good at math default smiley (lol) what kind of formulae do you use?


The calculation I use for planning is (for 25% 25% 50% crosses):

BREED A- 25%
BREED B- 25%
BREED C- 50%

Breed A stamina + Breed B stamina = x
x/2=y
y+ Breed C stamina= Result (Stamina)

Repeat for speed, dressage, gallop, trot, and jumping.


For breed stamina, I don't mean the stamina from the parent. I mean the stamina of the breed itself, found on the breed's page.
AudreyRB
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So, I did the calculations based on a 25% 25% 50% horse. The calculations did vary.

•25% TW, 25% TB, 50% Teke-

Stamina: 266.71
Speed: 213.63
Dressage: 243.7
Gallop: 182.18
Trot: 140.46
Jumping: 193.8

This horse would make a good cutting horse.

•25% TB, 25% Teke, 50% TW-

Stamina: 258.27
Speed: 196.25
Dressage: 242.83
Gallop: 174.58
Trot: 199.32
Jumping: 169.23

This horse would be a western pleasure horse, but could double as a cutting horse.

•25% Teke, 25% TW, 50% TB-

Stamina: 234.59
Speed: 221.99
Dressage: 236.85
Gallop: 221.18
Trot: 150.22
Jumping: 175.15

This horse would do slightly better at cutting, but would do almost as well in barrel racing.


Each result had 1 competition in common, cutting. They would all be contenders for it. The thing is, they each had a different competition, too. So yes, the skill sets would vary a little bit. No, it's not drastic, but they could still vary.
AudreyRB
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Also, please notice horse on the Teke dominant one, the stamina is higher than the other two results. This is because stamina is the Teke's best skill.

The same goes for the other two. Trot on the TW dominant one is at least 40% higher than the others, and gallop on the TB dominant one is better than the Teke and TW dominant horses.
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*the horse, not just "horse"
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By Retired breeder, 28th March 2016 23:18:10
Thanks Audrey default smiley :-)) You just saved me tons of time from trial and error
I don't want to blup right now... My appy criollo is my next one to blup though!!
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I hear ya on that. Purebred wise, I breed Morgans (as well as NIB Paints and Morgans but they don't count). Morgans are still about 500-ish points away from the top GP and I look at my measly 3000+ GP Morgans....so. far. behind.
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For the calculation formula I posted, I forgot to say divide the "result" for the actual result.

Oh well, I was focused on other things.
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Yeah, I have a few of my old TB's that I was super impressed with because they had 1000-2000 GP. Now it's up to 6000+. I have some 5000-5500 GP ones, and if I keep breeding quickly, they'll start catching up a bit. I just need to stop spending AP's on crossies...

On the topic of crossies I BLUPed Counting Stars! Anyone want a cover?
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Here's some of my most recent S.H.I.E.L.D foals. I'm quite pleased with them.
Experiment.
Male.
ListenToTheThunder
Welshie.

As you can see, still working on my Welsh Stamina project default smiley (lol)

Any comments on them are welcome default smiley :)
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Oh, I'm seeing the difference now - there is more of the 50% breed so therefore its skills would have more of an impact (obviously). Not sure why I wasn't getting it before default smiley xd
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Newest TB/Arab cross! I love him! I just wish I had the AP to train him right now. :/
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4 Winds, very nice!
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By Retired breeder, 30th March 2016 20:50:42
I saw my KWPN was 900 gallop so I increase it with TB and now I have this little guy.
I am actually really happy with him, he is my first 4 way 1000 skills. I wonder if I could get a 5 way 1000 skills or would I have to wait for the GP to increase?

He's good! Nice GP

Dancingwithwolves, he's very nice! I think it would work, though I'm not very experienced with that stuff.
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Oh my. Cross breeding is my J A M.

My current baby default smiley (l)default smiley (l)
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Ooh nice dressage horse!
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