[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 17:25:43
2 wins left... seems to take forever
By sammianne, 30th January 2010 17:30:58
I have a question that someone here might be able to answer. I hope so anyway! default smiley ;)

If you have a 1st generation NIB horse and one of it's foundie parents disappears will the "grandparents" (Ouranos & Gaia) also disappear from that branch of the tree?
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By Rowen, 30th January 2010 17:38:00
No the oranos and gaia will still be there the only problem is that when people go back to check the lines they will not know if that horse has a foundation horse disappear or a horse that has a lot of inbreeding so many people won't breed to it default smiley :( I have lost a lot of horses that way.

Rowen
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By sammianne, 30th January 2010 17:41:45
Well the tree would still show NIB status for the 1st generation horse I have if Ouranos and Gaia appear above the question mark/horse disappeared business. But generations afterward would pose the problem. I didn't think of that. I guess I'd better grab some screen shots as proof.
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By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 17:50:23
I've just learned an important lesson: you can only have two horses in the same race. This has never applied to me before as I've never used fillers before. Darn it - I used my last 2 aging points getting my 2nd filler to the right gallop level default smiley (lol)
By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 17:52:26
Rymskynx - default smiley (lol) Yes, I did see that!! Hopefully she's finding her groove...That's a mighty sexy GP on your boy there....default smiley (7) Maybe next time they meet it'll be in the breeding shed...default smiley (lol) (she says without checking pedigree..since Caoimhe is by one of your boys)

Sandstar12 -- yes, the last couple are fairly torturous..default smiley ;) Hang in there...hopefully by tonight you'll be back here popping the cork on some bubbly....default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 17:54:27
Sandstar12 -- random act of NIB-love en route...default smiley ;) The idea of fillers just hurts my brain...knowing my luck I'd be beating my bluppers with my filler....
By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 18:00:14
Wild North - hmm bubbly. Underage drinking... =p Maybe not. And thank you for the random act of NIB-love =) Very much appreciated
By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 18:01:02
OMG Yay! 20 wins! *metaphorically pops cork on bubbly*
By Rymskynx, 30th January 2010 18:17:30
Actually Wild, I don't think they're related - Quest doesn't have any of my NIB uni's in his pedigree and Caoimhe is by one of them. default smiley ;) He is my highest GP so far; I'm really quite proud of him. default smiley :-))
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By Forest Queen, 30th January 2010 18:39:57
Good job Sandstar default smiley :-))

You guys are just so active while I'm in bed default smiley xd
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By Forest Queen, 30th January 2010 19:11:34
If anyone has some arabian fillers for XC comps of .68-.81% I would much appreciate aid default smiley ;). I have all sorts of my immortalized horses in there that need some wins.

Blazing Glory (my filler as her health is below par)
Eternal (has affix)
Demon Hunter
Rainbow_Pegasus (has affix)
Strawberry Lark (has affix)
Shaton
fire (is a filler in trot comps)
Kisco (jumping comps)

Those are the names I can remember.
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By westwindangel, 30th January 2010 20:11:12
Hey there default smiley :)

I'm buying any Morgan foundation foal for 3500e. I only need 2 or 3 but they're harder to find than you think! default smiley (lol)

Thinking of starting an NIB line, but probably just going to work with them to the highest quality possible without buying from top breeders.
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By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 20:17:17
Ihaven't ben here in a while, to those wondering, Nutty is not all the way trained, they just won't run! He's in XC and around 14-20ish%. There just aren't enough horses of that skill. Off to work other horses....
By Forest Queen, 30th January 2010 20:30:57
Woot! So far Strawberry Lark has won 3 comps today default smiley :-)). 5 more wins and he'll be all done default smiley (b)
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By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 20:31:12
Forest - I'll check Lukas to see where he is on the XC scale...trouble is, he's wildly unpredictable and throws out the odd win here and there...default smiley (o)

Sandstar12 -- how's about some sparkling grape then? default smiley ;) Glad those wins came through...congrats!

Rymskynx -- well then...default smiley ;)

Just finished up one of my monster IH's and bred her....all of my comps seem to be stuck in a holding pattern..hoping the evening will jostle them loose...

ttfn
By Forest Queen, 30th January 2010 20:37:13
That is fine, I'm not to worried. I have got more wins today than I have recently so it would be fine if they lost on accident default smiley :p
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By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 20:54:59
Forest - congrats on all of your wins!! default smiley (y)default smiley (y) It looks like Lukas would fit the bill...I'll keep an eye out for your crew...

default smiley (l)

Really going now...
By Forest Queen, 30th January 2010 21:00:14
Delgado got his first win today default smiley :-)) and few more wins for more random horses. Not a whole lot of great wins. Wish Rainbow_Pegasus and Beauty would get their last 2 default smiley xd
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By Forest Queen, 30th January 2010 21:07:56
Wow, Strawberry Lark won every race I put him in O_o. Puts him at 17 wins, just needs 3 more default smiley :-))
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By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 22:07:09
Wild North - Sparkling grape sounds good =p
By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 22:07:29
Congrats Forest Queen =)
By Retired breeder, 30th January 2010 22:25:10
If anyone is interested in NIB Friesians and needs some more please look at my forum.
By LongTail, 30th January 2010 22:34:23
Watch out, PSH category, i'm coming,and my horses are too! rotfl
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By LongTail, 30th January 2010 22:37:38
Oh gees, I know I just posted, but htis is hurting my brain..... can someone explain this REALLY thoroughly to me? Take this example. I have a stally and 2 mares. I breed the stally to both mares. one mare has a colt, one a filly. I breed them. Would that be inbreeding?
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