[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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I have an old 350 foundie Irish Hunter stud I'm happy to offer covers from (sorry he's my original horse so he's not for sale but he's only got two offspring still showing in the game so he's a good starting point for a NIB)

Just message me. I don't keep up with threads well.
miketg
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Thank you thank you thank YOU for all those Shagya default smiley (l)default smiley (l)

And found a "few" in sales as well, after I was told they were there.

Bless all you lovely people. You know who you are default smiley (l)
Asfridur
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Thanks Lennox and tigrelily for the 1st gens!! � 5 gens I'll be able to do now.
Twinjodi
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Alright, so I've looked into NIB breeding a bit more and, while the first few generations seem easy, it seems pretty complicated to continue after a certain point; so, is there any way I could set up something with someone where I solely do the first couple of generations and then sell the foals to someone else who will do the rest? (if I decide to stop, I will sell my Founders so as not to disrupt the lines!)
Time4Fun
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Just now saw this, sorry about that! But things ended up working out any way default smiley :)
⊰ Del ⊱
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@Time4Fun, it's really actually not that complicated for a smaller project! (4 gens or less) We make use of things like spreadsheets, making family trees, different affixes, subscripts/superscripts, or even themed names! You don't have to push yourself to a huge population, just do what you're comfortable with! default smiley :)

Also as a reminder, we did start a new breeder's list on the discord that is an editable google document. Please feel free to also message me if you'd like to get added on to help us all keep track of each other and possibly where extras of breeds we are not doing can find a good home! default smiley :d https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bA6ESeC1GeF2ZKQVPAhjRBrru7tPfpvkDqiD6BzDKuE/edit?usp=sharing
Twinjodi
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For those still waiting for their foundies from my rehoming project, I apologize for the delay. Due to crazy schedule recently I have been unable to get to Howrse.

Most of the foundies have been delivered but not all. Some breeds are still waiting for requesters to choose their horses, others are waiting for me to get them in reserved sales.

Thank you for your patience.
Yankee Lady
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The foundations still needing rehoming are few, but want to know if anyone interested in them. They include:

OG KWPN - 1

RG Brumby- 1
RG Fjord - 3
RG Marwari - 1
RG Purebred Spanish - 1
RG Vanner - 2

For those previous requestors waiting for their OG Curly and OG Knabstrupper foundies, I am waiting for 1st and/or 2nd requestors to make their choices. As soon as possible you will be receiving yours.

Thanks to all who opened your herds to these foundies. To date I have rehomed 477 foundation horses. Way to go NIBers!
Yankee Lady
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Could someone please post the Discord discussion URL again. I seem to have lost the address. Thank you. By the way the NIB breeders listing is GREAT!
Yankee Lady
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Thanks! We were just needing a new list! Haha

Discord is https://discord.gg/VqhARS5XZN
Twinjodi
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The game decided to give me a Perchon foundie, but I can't say that I want any Perchons (I am only just starting out NIB breeding my Shetlands! lol). So, since I unlocked the reserved sale thingy, does anyone here breed Perchon NIB and want to buy her? If you do, please shoot me a pm, as I don't look at this tread very often.
Time4Fun
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Yankee Lady
Any homeless RG or OG's are always welcome in my barn
Asfridur
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Yankee Lady,

Thank you for all the OGs you sent me. default smiley :d

If any others need a home, my door is always open. default smiley (h)
tigrelily
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: ƝΛƓΛ
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Knabstrupper
Current GP: 564.89
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=74451871
lbenedict15
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Crocus
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Newfoundland Pony (RG)
Current GP: 6955.84
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=73805961
lbenedict15
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My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Skyback 3 GP Oddy
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Marwari
Current GP: 551.66
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=72819242
lbenedict15
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In search of an RG Canadian unicorn, foundation or NIB, any GP. Mostly just looking for a cover (happy to share a twin, I have a Hestia for her!), but also will consider buying!
lbenedict15
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Since lb posted, I'll follow suit!

My OG NIB GP Entries
Horse's Name: Lacey¹
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Australian Pony
Current GP: 563.35 (1st Gen)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=74102339

Horse's Name: MIDWAY¹
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Chincoteague Pony
Current GP: 568.49 (1st Gen)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=74607358

Horse's Name: Abbot¹
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Shetland Pony
Current GP: 549.18 (1st Gen)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=71824634
Twinjodi
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Sorry, realized Abbot is a duplicate. default smiley :) Ignore him Misabel! default smiley :)

My RG NIB GP Entries
Horse's Name: Code Lyoko²
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Mangalarga Marchador
Current GP: 7157.46 (2nd Gen)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=73881682

Horse's Name: I'ma Globetrotter²
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): French Trotter Unicorn
Current GP: 5674.95 (2nd Gen)
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=74489556
Twinjodi
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And...forgot one. Thanks for the reminder, Twin!

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name: Sempervirens
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Ban'ei
Current GP: 7638.35
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=74553156
lbenedict15
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Yay! I'm glad I'm not the only one! I've been expanding my barn trying to keep everyone I have from inbreeding. Lol. Hey, when you all sell foals, do you mark them as NIB or something?
Gyosei
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Also, what is OG and RG?
Gyosei
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Welcome! OG refers to original GP foundations with 350-351.2 GP. RG refers to any foundation above that GP.
lbenedict15
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Who all is breeding Appy NIBs these days?
Rattler Winter
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Storms Ransome is always breeding OG Appaloosas default smiley :d
Twinjodi
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