I got everything I wanted, but missed the 100c viserys riding pegasus coat. It went so fast that it didn't even show up for me.

Seems like it was very sought after coat. Copies of this in sales are already priced over 2k passes

I like viserys i think i have one or two but all are 100 copies. Tried to get the riding horse and it came up but almost froze my phone. I like the riding pegasus too.

And 7 golden apples. I only have 2 from viserys both from when i bought passes.

That is the one I missed of the 5 coats I was going for. I had it as my second in line on pre-release, and there was a lag and by the time it loaded it was gone. It was gone so fast. At least I wasn't too set on having it, not going to buy it from sales.

They said a little while back that most of the coats are actually chosen by the team - I think that explains why certain artists and certain styles of coats seem to get through consistently, while others never do.
The people choosing seem to have a particular 'type' and it isn't my cup of tea.

Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of voting and the Black pearl being a community?!? Seems unfair in my opinion.

Here's the answer to our multiple submission confusion. This was posted by Admin this morning on Discord

In a spoiler to save space

November 2025 Creation Space Update

I've seen this factoid going around a bunch, however we don't know exactly how the selection process works since it was never explicitly stated, just a few tidbits here and there.
From my knowledge it was never said that the selection is entirely up to the team. I find it a way more plausible explanation, that the selected coats are simply also the ones which get the most votes, rather than immediately assuming the whole thing is somehow rigged.

And it's really no surprise that most of the same artists get their coats accepted each month, since we're the ones who make up most of the submissions. And sadly with the number of submissions dwindling if you take us out of the equation, there simply wouldn't be enough quality work to fill the monthly selection.

Lastly, there's a bunch of reasons why a coat might not make it in-game: the obvious rule breaking (AI, tracing, plagiarism etc.) and quality issues (stray pixels, messy edges, cut corners etc..), the artist may have had a different coat selected, there might have been tough competition in that category that month or it simply got a little unlucky. And even if the coat gets accepted, there's no guarantee you'll see it here since the limited ones make up just a smaller portion of the entire selection

I will add to Noctuarys and Legacy Ann's message the following: the amount of submissions in most categories is extremely low. If you havent seen it yet, go take a look each month at every single category. You will notice that the donkey unicorn, donkey Pegasus, donkey winged unicorn, draft Pegasus, draft winged Pegasus, pony Pegasus, pony winged unicorn, riding winged unicorn are ALL extremely empty. Sometimes there are not even 20 submissions within one category.

Then, take a critical look at the quality of those drawings. Some are AI, some are likely stolen, some are traced over a photo, some are a photobash, some are low quality due to stains, a thin black square, a white background. There are then not many good quality left. The more experienced artists make these mistakes less. (And even experienced artists sometimes make a small mistake with stains or a shadow that is cut off, it happens). (I will say that the riding category is absolutely packed with AI en stolen/traced things, once you see it it becomes very sad)

Especially for smaller categories it is almost predictable which coats will win if you remove all 'problematic' ones. That has nothing to do with howrse favoring certain artists, there is simply not enough options within a category.
And now we get to the next problem, if howrse would stick to the 1 per player rule, it means that if you (as an artist) submit in a smaller categories, you will likely pass a coat there but not in the bigger ones of riding horse and ponies.
Even if you have a coat there on which you spend 8+ hours of your time and is high quality and many people want to have it. This causes some artists to only submit in bigger categories because they dont want to always pass in the smaller one and put their own coat on a team horse for example. This leads to some artists always passing in similar categories, because they only submit there and other artists likely passed in the smaller ones.

I have read back on this server quite a lot, and i see often people complaining that they dont like the selection, and 'where are all the pretty coats i voted for' and 'it used to be better back in the days'. Well all the pretty coats were likely blocked because the artist had a coat pass in a smaller category.

Back in the days there used to be way more submissions, divided over less categories. There used to be over 200 pages of submissions, while we are now lucky when we reach 50 and can vote 50 times everyday of the voting session. Sometimes the voting ends already a few days before the 14th. We do not have many coats at the moment in voting.
If you really look back over the past 15 years of creations, the quality has always been mixed, some artists were able to make masterpieces, while others made coats on their own level and pace and improved over time. You just dont remember 90% of the coats that you did not like 10 years ago.

Hi there!

I always wonder why this debate keeps coming back... If you don't love the new releases, why not explore the already 25K + existing ones? It's time consuming yeah, but quite fun, you make quite fun discoveries this way. ^^

Unless... It's because you need new retired coats because you just want to sell them?

You know, when I thought back in 2022: "Oh, there's no Jackdaw inspired pegasus yet!" or "Hasn't anyone made a coat based on the Crassula plant yet?!", I just made it happen. No one can bring your vision to life better than you!

I literally had no idea about it, that's why I commented? I didn't think it would spark such a conversation, the way I saw it was that the votes of the people wouldn't factor in when actually choosing which coats to get accepted. I didn't know there was such a low submission rate so that's totally fair, along with removing the ones going against guidelines (thank you Noctuarys for that well written explanation (: )

Why are you just assuming I'm getting the new retired coats to sell? That's the whole point of the RC; collecting. I love seeing the new coats every month and preparing horses to put them on. I can hardly get the coats I want every release; let alone multiple copies just to resell...

I dont think that message was directed at you?


Anyway, the artist that consistently gets artwork through, that Haffy doesn't like, is popular with a lot of people and is one that people like to collect. Just because it isnt one persons vibe doesnt mean it isnt everyone elses.

The CS also has a wide range of art styles and its not like this release is packed full of clones of the same style lol

I get them first and pre cs while i still can and to save money if i can play with passes again. Also want coat color and possible breed to match on non fantasy colors. I don't sale anymore.

I get art is subjective, but this release I've used probably half as many GA's , maybe even a third, on unlimited coats as I usually would (I only use ones I like for unlimited coats) so I would respectfully disagree that this release includes a particularly wide range of styles/quality.

If you look at the uses of unlimited from the most recent few months of releases, in just the horse category as this is a generally popular species of coats applied, you can clearly see a pattern of what types of coats are being used and which are not terribly universally popular...yet these are the types seemingly being added in mass (hybrids, weird poses, odd proportions, terrible conformation, howrse 'nasties' etc). Lots sitting there with just a small handful of uses, and non of them are what I would really term as a conventional horse, then switch to popularity and it's actually very clear that attractive conventional horse submissions are the most used coats by a long shot, yet we actually see very few of these getting through the voting each month.

Respectfully as an artist if I was a new artist excited that I got a coat into the game or was attempting to get a coat into the game and I saw players, including a mod no less, refer to my possible coats as “howrse nasties” or even just consistently complain about coat styles offered I would be incredibly discouraged from continuing to try drawing for the game. Please keep in mind that there are artists who spend hours to create art for this game, and the way we speak about art on here could be seen by the very creators of these coats.

Just because the coats don’t appeal to you doesn’t mean there isn’t variety, unless of course you only categorise them into “things I like” and “things I don’t like.”
Almost each month there is a wide range of styles and themes from realistic to cartoony and stylised, from fantastical to “casual.” Now this is just my personal guess but from voting regularly I always feel that fantastical designs outnumber regular horses, which would explain why more of such coats make it into the game.


In one breath you complain about the fact that mostly the same artists get work accepted, yet in the next you criticise work with “weird poses,” “odd proportions” and “weird conformation,” which are usually indicative of beginner artists who are still learning the ropes and improving, and are the very new faces you claim you’d like to see.
And just because something doesn’t get many uses does not mean it wasn’t popular during voting, since to actually apply a coat you need to use resources which most players tend to do sparingly, whereas during voting it costs nothing to vote for the submissions you like.

Looking at the first three pages of unlimited coats by popularity, to me the vast majority of them are fantastical in some way. Sorting by uses will not give a reliable picture, since older coats will naturally have more uses, and even the good quality and popular new ones will most likely never reach the same numbers since there’s simply less players.


And yes art is subjective, you are entitled to your own opinion. But don’t the same complaints month after month, year after year get old? What is the point in constantly pointing out that you find the works which have been accepted subpar. Obviously one single person won’t find all the coats that get accepted to their liking, that’s normal – good even. But instead of constantly focusing on the ones you dislike, why not celebrate the ones you do. Collecting is supposed to be fun, yet this thread more often than not turns into an echo chamber of negativity and complaints and it begs the question why do you even keep collecting if you dislike it so much.
Lastly, describing other's work as "nasties" is certainly a choice.

Can't quote yourself but I think you'll find I generally do comment on any coats I especially like when the pre release posts go up! Amongst other times

Hoarse nasties = basically what it says on the tin - blood, guts, gore, weapons, emaciated etc - all the not exactly family friendly stuff Mary Whitehouse would approve of.

It's a good thing that I made my account on International after I get a little bit older, because if I as a young artist saw every month discussion about how dissapointing was new release and my artwork being called "nasties" I would curl up in ball and not try again lol
Thank you all for ability to outspoke your opinion in nice way, to people who cant do it and would call it honesty... well i dont really have words so have a nice evening I guess, see you next month

are the bloody, gore-y, guts-y, sickly horses in the room with us? those creations not only do not go through, they don’t even exist.

i was going to make a long comment about how “nasty” your attitude towards howrse artists but choose not to, like you can choose not to get the ones you personally don’t like.

I agree with haffyfan some of the violent ones i report i think would scare my older child and if i think its ai only when it doesn't have deliberate lines when i zoom in. I just collect cute pretty happy healthy looking horses. If its a chimera if its mostly horse and cute.

Oooof someone forgot the meaning of elementary respect here.


Creative space was built upon artists' free labor, and hell... Seeing how badly you are considering us, it's plainly disheartening. We don't owe anyone anything, even less toward people who only get here to whine about the same refrain every time.


You want to see demurely posed palomino ? Family friendly coat ? I have a great tip for you : Draw. Them.
I wanted to see more cartoonish coats, I made them, I have almost 50 creations in game now. I don't draw for anyone other than myself, I'm just lucky enough some people like my cartoonish ponies enough to vote for them in the CS.


To each their own, for sure, there are styles I'm not a big fan of, but getting here and talking down the vast majority of the artists who are actively carrying the whole creative aspect of this community is just down right shamefull.
Especially as a mod, when you are expect to show an exemple on how to behave toward other players. And this... well. This is not the way to go.


Like Kitcat said, you talking so disrespectfully about creations, calling gruesome/vent artwork "nasty"... I mean, I can get this type of art not being your cup of tea, but using such derogatory language is just uncalled for. Beside, not only do very gory artwork won't even make it in game, but young children have no business being over the internet unsuppervised anyway.
Same stuff with "bad conformation". It's usually either just begining artists (you know, the ones we are trying to motivates to keep playing), of people having fun with proportions (I know I have a good amount of coats with hips dysplasia just for the sake of having an fun looking pose)
If I had read those nasty comments you made about coats made by unexperimented artists earlier in my life, I would have been devastated. It takes litterally no more effort to be kind, and makes a tremendous difference in so many young creators' journey.



You wanna know the respectfull way to handle a peice of art not being to your liking : Vote for another entry, and forget about it.
Creative space is for everybody. Not JUST for you. And I'm quite glad about if because it wouldn't be as rich and diverse as it is now.

Personally I love the 'gore' stuff. I go out of my way to try get those types of coats because I love them.
The skeletal the better in my opinion, I look forward to the Halloween time releases specifically for them.

It's all about taste at the end of day. Just because you don't find it up to par doesn't mean it's bad work. Calling it 'nasty' is blah. Don't like it, don't vote for it or use them, simple. There are plenty more cutesy coats to pick when the release comes.

We should be respectful of each other. I don't comment or usually report on all the ones i don't like usually i press skip or vote for the one i like best.

In other news the silver apples i bought from sales recently that i know the names of were hairy rainbow by schos and snow bells draft horse.