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kudos to howrse for bringing back the squares. everyone liked that.

this may be pushing it but if we could have 120x120 back too, today would be a blessed day haha

yes this is crucial, it didn’t need changing

Howrse. Why does this even need to be said? If you've been watching us, players, you should know that the graphics community is a large part of this game. It might not matter to some, but it certainly does to a lot. Hours and hours of work will go down the drain with these circular avatars. If we wanted circular avatars in the first place, players obviously would've asked for it. Even so, it's easy to just make circular avatars by ourselves.

I'm seeing that square avatars are back, but they're a lot smaller. Can they please go back to 120x120? If you're not giving us updates we want, at least keep the features we enjoy?

I mean, I highly doubt I would have stopped playing forever, but I've gotta say, I was quite irritated with the change earlier and it certainly made me want to quit for at least a week. I don't know, I'm weird.

Most players contending the change weren't talking of quitting, from what I saw. Not that you don't make a good point, because you do; it's not something to quit over, in my opinion.

Personally I have a lot of fondness for graphics made for me, particularly older ones, and changing out my graphics is something I enjoy doing. Having all of the avatars I have stored rendered useless was rather upsetting. I know not everyone feels the same way about their graphics, and that's completely valid, but it *is* an aspect of the game that I enjoy.

Yay! Sqaures!
Even though they are smaller than before, I wont complain! They can stay this size forever for all I care, I'm just sooo happy squares are back

It’s relatively simple to make an avatar into the circle shape, though I agree that having an option on the shape to frame the avatar would be great. The circles did look good, but when mixed with the square avatars designed only to be viewed as a square... not appealing whatsoever.

Anyway, thank you Howrse for reverting them back! I quite like the smaller size in forums, but I think the normal 120x120 pixels works a lot better in the overall design of each page, especially on presentation pages.

@-Orchid-

I understand that,I hope they let people choose between circles and squares as people have different preferences. Personally Ive liked your avatar for ages now

I overreacted a lot . Now that I think of it,It couldve been cool experimenting

The size is messing with me, you can barely see the details that make the avatar. I'm so glad you guys listened to us but I'd really like to know the reasoning behind changing it. It's weird that it was changed so spontaneously

Glad they seem to have reversed circle-gate. I've had my main server avatar (self-made) for over 9 years, and while it wasn't exactly cluttered there is no way to fit the old detail into a circle avatar. I'm comfortable with and - dare I say - rather fond of that avatar.

Of course, it isn't the end of the world and doesn't directly impact game play, but it would be a significant change nonetheless. There definitely needs to be better communication between players and the developers. I simply don't understand the reason for some of these changes, and have not seen a single soul asking for them.

Also, please include all changes in the change log in future. I'm sure it would be an easier pill to swallow if they are addressed fully and transparently.

Ikr! I'm in shock.

This was honestly my biggest hangup.
Nowhere, anywhere, was stated that this was about to change, nothing was in the patch notes and we weren't told at all on any test.

Please put the full patch notes so that we can read them :c

Thank you Howrse for giving us back our squares. I would prefer 120x120 but this'll do... If an option is implemented where we can change from square to circle: then great! But forcing it on us was no bueno.

RIP my avi graphics comp if we don't get 120x120 back. I feel like all the graphics artists are going to hold off on making avatars for a bit til we get all this figured out...I mean I know I would.

Just throw this whole change away, clearly no one really likes it. Fix something useful...maybe the lag?

perhaps it wasn't in the notes because it wasn't meant to happen. Everything in the notes was about changes to the mobile version which does display avatars as circles. Perhaps it just got transferred over to the desktop version by mistake. I dunno if that's possible as I know nothing about coding, but mistakes happen.

I really hope this change was just that, a mistake. I do not want to remake a ton of avatars, stuff takes too long, not including having to remake all my scanlines, borders, etc as well. Its not as easy as others like to think it is, its not just copy and paste.

The avatars are still not showing up anywhere on the mobile just want to put that out there

YES! It's been around for so long, yet for whatever reason Howrse wants to "fix" so may things that have literally nothing wrong. I wonder if they'll actually ever listen to the player-base.

Although square avatars are back, the dimensions still aren't right. What part of "hours of work will go down the drain" does Howrse not understand? Simply "changing" the dimensions of avatars isn't going to be easy for artists.

Exactly! Like I said before, you can barely see the details that make the avatar.
Like you can't even read what mine says.
(Hint hint it says Lev Haiba)
Chances are you wouldn't have known unless you zoomed in or I didn't tell what it said

Ok so I just changed my avatar lol so ignore the bottom half of that comment haha

96x96 isn't a lot of wiggle room, not many pictures are clear enough to even bring it down to that size. Just change it back to 120x120, its useless making the avatars change. People need options, forcing something onto someone is how you lose people. Don't be like that.

The newest version of this change is awesome...those who prefer square avatars can keep them (and if the difference between what I believe is 100px x 100px and what used to be 120px x 120px is that hard to adjust to/see right, you can simply zoom in on the page) and those who prefer circle avatars don't have to deal with that darker brown square outline. That was the one thing preventing me from having a circle avatar in the past.

Did they... did they actually listen and change it back?

Thank you Howrse for reverting the avatar change

You know, if you guys did polls on these kind of things you would probably find players a lot more open to change. Having ASD means I struggle with sudden changes to my 'safe places' but if we had had an enquiry posed to us and time to process it then the reaction may have been somewhat different.

I also feel that this is to get us inline with social media channels and their styles, of which I do not partake, and I resent the inexorable push towards that.